Closed captioning transcript for the Hillsborough County School Workshop from June 8th, 2017, 9:00 A.M.

>> I KNOW MS. VALDES IS UPSTAIRS AND MS. SNIVELY IS ON HER WAY. WE ARE OPENING THE BUDGET WORKSHOP FOR THE 2017/2018 SCHOOL YEAR. MR. SUPERINTENDENT.  

>> I WANT TO SET THE FRAMEWORK FOR THIS WORKSHOP. WE HAVE ANOTHER FULL DAY WORKSHOP SCHEDULED JUNE 20th. TODAY'S WORKSHOP IS TWOFOLD. THE FIRST PART HAD BEEN REQUESTED TO GIVE FOUNDATIONAL ELEMENTS OF THE BUILDING OF THE BUDGET AND WHAT THE FACTORS ARE WE ARE NEEDING TO CONSIDER AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT IN DEVELOPING THAT. SECOND PART IS TAKING -- TRYING TO TAKE A STAB AT THE DIFFERENT MOVING TARGETS WE ARE DEALING WITH RIGHT NOW. WE ARE DEALING WITH A LOT OF MOVING TARGETS AS FAR AS THE STATE BUDGET. WE DON'T HAVE A FINAL BUDGET YET. ALL REPORTS ARE IT MIGHT BE LONGER THAN THREE DAYS. WE MAY NOT HAVE A BUDGET EVEN BY THE ENDS OF THE REGULAR SPECIAL SESSION. SO WE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT AND HOW IT IS AFFECTING OUR PLANNING NEXT YEAR, WHAT COULD BE THE RAMIFICATIONS OF NOT HAVING A BUDGET ON TIME AND HOW TO DEAL WITH THAT TYPE SCENARIO. RIGHT NOW, WE WILL START OFF WITH GETTING THE FOUNDATIONAL ELEMENTS. I MAY PIPE IN A BIT ON THIS. WE ALSO HAVE AT THE SAME TIME WE ARE DEALING WITH A STATE BUDGET CHALLENGE, WE ARE ALSO DEALING WITH FEDERAL BUDGET UNCERTAINTIES. SO THE FEDERAL BUDGET HAS BEEN PO PROPOSED BY THE PRESIDENT TO CONGRESS AND THERE ARE A LOT OF CHALLENGES RESULTING AT THAT LEVEL, AND THEN OF COURSE WE HAVE SOME FEDERAL IMPLICATIONS THAT ARE BEING WOVEN IN TO STATE STATUTE, TOO, THROUGH HOUSE BILL 7069. SO SOME OF THOSE THINGS I WILL PIPE IN AND TALK ABOUT AS WE GO THROUGH THE MORNING. SO, GRETCHEN?  

>> GRETCHEN, BEFORE YOU BEGIN, I WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW THIS IS LIVE STREAMED FOR OUR EMPLOYEE AND RECORDED TODAY.  

>> THANK YOU. AS THE SUPERINTENDENT SAID WE WANT TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE KNOW SO FAR. WHAT WE ARE WORKING ON THIS YEAR AND WHAT OUR PLANS ARE GOING FORWARD. WE SPOKE THIS MORNING WITH DR. HAMILTON AND LIKE THE SUPERINTENDENT SAID THEY ARE HOPING TO BE DONE BY FRIDAY. BUT IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT. SO AGAIN OUR GOAL IS BY THE 20th, WHICH IS OUR NEXT FULL DAY BUDGET WORKSHOP WE WILL HAVE ACTUAL NUMBERS FOR YOU WHICH WOULD BE GREAT AS WE GO FORWARD BECAUSE THE FISCAL YEAR STARTS JULY 1. AS WE WORK TOWARD THAT, IT IS ALL DIVISIONS WORKING TOGETHER AND IT'S PHONE CALLS AND LAST-MINUTE MEETINGS AND PHONE CALLS AND ALL THE TIME WORKING IN COLLABORATION WITH THE OTHER DIVISION. SO A BIG SHOUTOUT TO THEM FOR THIS INFORMATION. ANY WAY, OUR TEAM. SOME OF THE THINGS WE WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT WAS THE BUDGET AND SOME OF THE BOARD MEMBERS HAVE REQUESTED A BASIC FEFP BUDGET BUILDING 101. WE WILL START WITH THAT AND WORK ON TO A BUDGET 201. SO WE WILL GO FORWARD ON THAT. SOME OF THE EXTERNAL FACTORS WE ARE NEEDING TO LOOK AT, AS WE BUILD THE BUDGET, ARE THE ANNUAL APPROPRIATIONS. WHAT'S THE LEGISLATIVE CLIMATE IN TALLAHASSEE AND THE HOT TOPICS? THERE'S A LOT OF HOT TOPICS THIS YEAR, WHETHER IT IS TESTING OR SOME OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS ARE STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW DO WE EXTEND ANOTHER DAY IN THE INSTRUCTIONAL YEAR? WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IS HOW DO WE KEEP GOING WITH WHAT WE'VE GOT? ARE WE HAPPY WITH WHAT WE ARE DOING? WHAT'S OUR RETURN ON INVESTMENT? THAT'S SOME OF THE QUESTIONS WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT. ONE THING WE HAVE TO LOOK AT WHEN WE LOOK AT THE BUDGET ARE GROWTH. WHAT PARTS OF THE COUNTY ARE GROWING AND SPEAKING WITH THE FOLKS ON CHRIS FARKAS' TEAM, ONE OF THE THINGS IS LOOKING AT THE MAINTENANCE NEEDS OF THE SCHOOL AND WE LOOKED AT THE SALES TAX MONEY AND WE REFUNDED SOME SALES TAX MONEY TO HELP FIVE OF OUR SCHOOLS HIGH-NEED SCHOOLS WITH AIR CONDITIONING, HVAC. SO WE ARE WORKING ON THAT RIGHT NOW. THAT WAS WONDERFUL AS WE HEAD IN TO THE SUMMER AND THE KIDS AREN'T IN THE SCHOOLS. SO THAT WILL HELP US A LOT. JUST KNOW EVERY DAY -- WE MEET WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT DR. VAZQUEZ TWICE A WEEK TO GO OVER THIS INFORMATION AND WE LOOK AT IT EVERY DAY. IT CHANGES EVERY DAY. SO SOME OF THE FOLKS ARE LOOKING OUT THERE AND IT'S LIKE YOUR HOME BUDGET WHERE YOU ARE LOOKING AT YOUR EXPENSES COMING IN AND REVENUES COMING IN AND WHAT YOUR PAYCHECK LOOKED LIKE. WE HAVE SO MANY VARIABLES. WE ARE THE LARGEST EMPLOYER IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY. WE ARE A HUGE ECONOMIC ENGINE FOR THE COUNTY. WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS INFORMATION IT IS IMPORTANT. WE HAVE TO GET THERE WITH WHAT WE'VE GOT. SO UNCERTAIN STATE AND FEDERAL EDUCATION FUNDING, AS THE SUPERINTENDENT SAID, WE DON'T HAVE THE ALLOCATION FROM THE STATE YET. WE ARE NOT SURE WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITH TITLE ONE AND TITLE TWO DOLLARS. WE ARE HOPING TO GET BACK FROM THE BASE ALLEGATION FROM 2008, 2007, EXPENSES HAVE INCREASED SINCE THEN. OUR NUMBERS HAVE GONE UP AND OUR REVENUE HASN'T. THE OTHER THING IS THE CAPITAL DOLLARS. CHRIS F FARKAS IS DOING MIRACLES WITH LESS MONEY. OUR SCHOOLS ARE IN USE ALL THE TIME. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT REPLACING FLOORING, THE WALLS AND WHOLE ENVELOPE OF THE SCHOOL THAT HAS TO BE LOOKED AT AND WE HAVE LESS FUNDING FOR THAT. OUR GROWTH IS OUTPACING OUR FUNDING. ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE TO REMEMBER AND TEACH OUR PUBLIC IS A LOT OF THE INFORMATION THAT WE ARE GETTING OUT OF TALLAHASSEE, LIKE THE LAST BULLET, INCREASED COST OF FRS. I MEANT TO PUT OUT FLORIDA RETIREMENT SYSTEM BECAUSE WE USE ACRONYMS ALL THE TIME. WHEN THE FLORIDA RETIREMENT SYSTEM CONTRIBUTION INCREASES, WE HAVE TO INCREASE IT. THERE'S NOT AN OPTION. SO THIS YEAR, IT'S PROJECTED TO GO UP 3.9 MILLION. WHEN WE RECEIVE OUR REVENUES THAT HAS TO COME OFF THE TOP. SO A LOT OF THOSE AND I WANT TO SAY UNFUNDED MANDATES BUT THERE'S A LOT OF MANDATES THAT DON'T HAVE REVENUE ATTACHED TO THEM. DID YOU WANT.  

>> I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT THE INCREASE IN FRS. IS THAT STATE MANDATED THAT WE INCREASE OR SOMETHING WE GET EVERY YEAR?  

>> IT DEPENDS ON HOW THEY CHANGE THE RATES ON WHAT THE WHOLE BUCKET IN TALLAHASSEE LOOKS LIKE FOR RETIREMENT.  

>> OKAY.  

>> IT COULD CHANGE EVERY YEAR.  

>> IS THERE A TREND THAT WE SEE, OR IS THAT -- I'M THINKING DOWN THE ROAD, IS THAT SOMETHING WE SHOULD BE PLANNING FOR THAT WE WILL SEE A DEFINITE 3% INCREASE EACH YEAR OR 5% OR SOMEWHERE IN THAT RANGE?  

>> THERE ISN'T A TREND. IT JUST DEPENDS ON.  

>> CAN YOU GET A RETURN ON THE LAST FIVE YEARS WHAT THAT HAS BEEN. WHAT THE INCREASE IN FRS HAS BEEN OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS IN PERCENTAGES AND DOLLARS SO WE CAN SEE THAT?  

>> YES, MA'AM.  

>> THANK YOU.  

>> I DIDN'T KNOW HOW YOU WANT TO WORK IT IF YOU WANT QUESTIONS DURING OR AT THE END, IT'S UP TO YOU.  

>> I'D RATHER DO QUESTIONS AT THE END. BUT THAT BECAUSE YOU SAID IT WAS 3.9 MILLION AND I DON'T REMEMBER SEEING SUCH AN INCREASE IN A WHILE OTHER THAN WHEN THE STATE FORCED THE 3%. SO I WANTED TO STOP AND ASK YOU. BUT I'D ASK BOARD MEMBERS TO WAIT UNTIL THE END. I THINK WE ARE WITH THE FULL BOARD NOW. SO.  

>> OKAY. GREAT. THANK YOU. SO THE NEXT ITEM ARE BEENAL FACTORS WHEN WE BUILD THE BUDGET. THE MANY THINGS WE WORKED HAND-IN-HAND WITH THE CHARTER OFFICE. CHRISTINA RUSSELL SHOPPED FOR THE HOME ED AND VIRTUAL PROGRAM. CHRIS FARKAS AND MAINTENANCE COSTS AND REALLY WE ALWAYS LOOK FOR HOW TO IMPROVE AND DECREASE OUR EXPENSES AND WHAT CONTROLS CAN WE PUT IN PLACE? EVERYBODY HAS JOINED FORCES WHEN IT COMES TO GRANTS, ESPECIALLY THE GRANTS THAT ARE ENDING AND HOW TO MAKE THEM SUSTAINABLE? ARE WE MAKING IT SO WHEN THE FUNDING ENDS THAT PROGRAM WON'T BE JUST PICKED UP OR ASSUMED TO BE PICKED UP BY THE GENERAL FUND. WE HAVE HAD A CHANGE IN THE WAY OF WORK, WHICH IS WONDERFUL, THAT EVERYBODY CAN SEE THAT AND AS THEY WORK ON THEIR GRANTS AND KATHY AND THE SPECIAL PROGRAMS TEAM MEET WITH PROGRAM MANAGER AND GIVE THEM INFORMATION SO THEY CAN HAVE THE LATEST AND GREATEST INFORMATION ON THAT. ONE THING WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT TO REMIND YOU ALL WHEN WE BUILD A BUDGET IT IS BASED ON A STUDENT PROJECTION. IT HAS TO BE GIVEN TO TALLAHASSEE IN DECEMBER. IT STARTS THE PROCESS FOR THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION. WHEN WE PULL TOGETHER, USUALLY IN LATE OCTOBER, MOSTLY NOVEMBER, WE PULL A TEAM OF FOLKS TOGETHER, A COMMITTEE TO WORK ON THE FTE PROJECTIONS FOR THE NEXT YEAR. A LOT OF THINGS ARE WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE COMMUNITIES? DO WE HAVE NEW HOUSING COMMUNITIES COMING ON, NEW BUSINESSES COMING IN, WHERE ARE BUILDING PERMITS GOING ON? JUST THE OPPOSITE, ARE THERE ANY COMPANIES CLOSING, WHAT'S AFFECTING THE AREAS? THIS IS WHERE THE AREA SUPERINTENDENTS COME IN BECAUSE THEY HAVE A HANDLE ON THEIR AREAS AND THEN THE PROGRAM. IT IS NOT JUST AREAS BUT THE PROGRAM FOLKS. SANDY ROSARIO WITH HER ESL FOLKS. YOU CAN SEE HOW WE ARE HAVE TO BUILD IT. WE TAKE THE NUMBER AND GIVE IT TO TALLAHASSEE. TALLAHASSEE TAKES IT AND SCRUB IT, DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION TAKES IT, THEY DON'T REALLY SCRUB IT BUT CALL US FOR CHANGES AND THEY TAKE THAT AND GIVE IT TO THE GOVERNOR. THAT'S HOW THE GOVERNOR BUILDS HIS BUDGET AND WHAT HE LOOKS AT WHEN HE BUILDS THE BUDGET. THAT TAKES IT AND RUNS WITH IT IN JANUARY. ALONG WITH THE WAY WHEN WE START THE SCHOOL YEAR, WE START JULY 1, GETTING PAID ON THAT ESTIMATE AND THEN IT GETS REVIEWED AGAIN IN OCTOBER WHEN WE DO THE OCTOBER FTE OR SURVEY TWO. WHAT WE CALL CHEEKS IN THE SEATS. SO THE NUMBERS ARE ADJUSTED AFTER THAT. BUT REALLY IT STARTS IN DECEMBER OF THE PREVIOUS YEAR OR THE FTE. OUR GOAL, OUR NUMBER ONE GOAL ALWAYS AS A BUSINESS DIVISION IS TO BRING YOU A BALANCED BUDGET AND BY LAW WE HAVE TO. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS WHEN WE GET THE INFORMATION FROM TALLAHASSEE, THE NEW REVENUE NUMBERS IS IT ONLY A WORKLOAD INCREASE? WHAT'S THE NUMBERS COMING IN FOR THE REVENUE? DOES IT FOLLOW THE STUDENTS, OR IS A LOT OF THE MONEY COMING FROM PROPERTY TAXES? IS IT A BASE STUDENT ALLOCATION, CATEGORICALS, ARE THERE OTHER THINGS GIVEN TO US WE NEED TO TRACK? WHEN WE LOOK AT THE PICTURE, IT'S A BALANCING ACT BETWEEN OUR REVENUE AND EXPENDITURES AND WE WILL TAKE IT DOWN AND BREAK IT. MS. VALDES ASKED US TO DO A QUICKOVER VIEW BECAUSE PEOPLE MAY BE WATCHING AND WANT AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT'S GOES ON IN THE BUDGET. THIS IS THE MAJORITY DOLLARS, THE OPERATING FUND. YOU WILL HEAR IT CALLED A LOT OF FUNDS, GENERAL FUND, 101, PART 1. THIS IS A MAJORITY OF THE DOLLARS IN OUR $2 BILLION BUDGET IS THE OPERATING BUDGET. UNDER THE REVENUE CATEGORY, WE TAKE IN REVENUE IN FOUR WAYS. IT'S EITHER CONSIDERED FEDERAL, FUNDED THROUGH STATE, STATE DOLLARS OR LOCAL DOLLARS. AN THEN WE GIVEN SOME EXAMPLES OF WHAT FEDERAL REVENUE LOOKS LIKE. SO FEDERAL IMPACT AID. WE ARE ONE OF THE DISTRICTS THAT RECEIVE IMPACT AID BECAUSE WE HAVE MacDILL AIR FORCE BASE IN OUR WIL HILLSBOROUGH WILL BE COUNTY. ANOTHER ONE IS BESATURDAY COUNTY. THEY ARE THE SAME WAY. THEY ARE IMPACTED ALSO. A HANDFUL OF DISTRICTS CAN APPLY FOR THAT. THAT IS AN ADDITIONAL MONEY COMING IN. ANYWHERE BETWEEN 500,000 TO $600,000 A YEAR. THERE'S TWO PROGRAMS THAT ACTUALLY ROLL OUT TO THE MEDICAID REIMBURSEMENT PROGRAM. THIS IS A REBATE PROGRAM BECAUSE THE MONEY IS ALREADY SPENT. THERE ARE TWO PROGRAMS. THERE'S THE FEE FOR SERVICE AND THE ADMINISTRATIVE CLAIMING. ON THE FEE FOR SERVICE, THIS IS OUR FOLKS THAT ARE ACTUALLY GIVING SHOTS TO OUR STUDENTS, OR HANDS ON. IT'S A FEE. IT IS A SERVICE AND WE CAN BE REIMBURSED FOR THAT. THE ADMINISTRATIVE CLAIMING SIDE, THERE'S A SNAPSHOT. IT IS A TIME STUDY AND IF SUSAN GARCIA IS OUT IN A SCHOOL AND DOING AN IEP MEETING MAY GET A PIECE OF PAPER THAT SAYS WHAT WERE YOU DOING AT 9:01 ON TODAY'S DATE AND SHE FILLS OUT THE FORM. WE SEND THEM IN TO THE STATE AND WE RECEIVE ANYWHERE 9 AN $11 MILLION A YEAR FOR MEDICAID REIMBURSEMENT BUT IT IS A REIMBURSEMENT OF EXPENDITURES WE HAVE ALREADY EXPENDEDDED. I THINK THE SUPERINTENDENT ALLUDED TO THAT EARLIER ON THE FEDERAL UNDERSTOODst DOLLARS BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN ON THE GRANTS AND MEDICAID PROGRAM. WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT SO FAR.  

>> Jeffrey Eakins: ONE MINUTE WORTH OF DIALOGUE ON THE FEDERAL. A LOT OF TALK ABOUT MEDICAID AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL. WE ARE WATCHING TO SEE HOW WE MAY OR MAY NOT BE ABLE TO GET REIMBURSEMENT THROUGH MEDICAID. SECONDLY, THE TITLE 1 FUNDS WHICH IS PROBABLY OUR LARGEST FEDERAL SOURCE OF REVENUE, AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL THEY DID INCREASE THE FUNDING FOR TITLE ONE, BUT THEN THE INCREASE IS REALLY MORE TO SEE STATES THAT WANT TO PILOT A PARTICULAR CHOICE PROGRAMS, ONE THEY HAVE TALKED A LOT ABOUT -- AND YOU HAVE HEARD IT TALK AT THE STATE LEVEL A FEW YEARS AGO THE ISSUE OF PORTABILITY AND DOLLARS FOLLOWING STUDENTS. SO THERE'S A LOT BEHIND THAT THAT WE COULD TALK ANOTHER HOUR ABOUT BUT THERE'S CHALLENGES WITH ALL OF THAT. LET'S PUT IT THAT WAY. AND THEN, NOW WITH THE NEW ESSA, THE STATE CAN LITERALLY TAKE OFF THE TOP OF YOUR FEDERAL DOLLARS A LARGER PORTION AT THE STATE LEVEL. WE MAY GET AN INCREASE IN FEDERAL FUNDS BUT ULTIMATELY A DECREASE WHEN THEY COME TO THE DISTRICT LEVEL. ON TOP OF THAT 7069, THE HOUSE BILL 7069 IS TRYING TO CHANGE HOW WE ALLOCATE THE FUNDS TO DISTRIBUTE IT IN A CERTAIN MANNER THAT WOULD UNDERMINE SOME OF THE THINGS WE ARE DOING ACROSS EVERY DISTRICT IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA TO SUPPORT OUR MOST HIGHEST-NEEDS SCHOOLS. TO SAY THAT WE HAVE OUR EYES AS MUCH ON THEM FEDERAL BUDGET AND FEDERAL IMPLICATIONS AS WE DO WHAT IS HAPPENING AT THE STATE.  

>> THANK YOU.  

>> SO THE MEDICAID DOLLARS ARE A FEDERAL DOLLAR BUT LIKE IT SAYS FEDERAL THROUGH STATE. EACH STATE HAS ITS OWN MEDICAID OFFICE OR AGENCY. WHEN THE DOLLARS FLOW THROUGH, THE STATE OF FLORIDA RECEIVES A CERTAIN BUCKET OF MONEY FOR THEIR MEDICAID PROGRAM, FOR THE MEDICAID REIMBURSEMENT PROGRAM. A LOT OF PEOPLE -- IT'S A LITTLE CONFUSING THAT IT IS FEDERAL DOLLARS BUT THE STATE OF FLORIDA, THEIR PORTION OF IT IS A PORTION OF WHAT WE RECEIVE. SO IT'S JUST ANOTHER CATEGORY WE HAVE TO RESPOND TO. STATE REVENUE. THIS IS ALL OF THE CATEGORIES WE KNOW AND LOVE, THE FLORIDA EDUCATION FINANCE PROGRAM, WHICH IS OUR EVERYDAY PROGRAM THAT WE TALK ABOUT FOR OUR CHEEKS IN THE SEATS. THIS IS THE CATEGORICAL PROGRAMS, TRANSPORTATION MONEY, SUPPLEMENTAL ACADEMIC INSTRUCTION, YOU NAME IT, THE CATEGORIES ARE IN THERE AND INCLUDES WORKSHOP DEVELOPMENT AND LOTTERY FUNDS AND SCHOOL RECOGNITION FUNDS. WE BROKE THAT OUT SEPARATE BECAUSE IT IS NOT PART OF A CATEGORICAL LIKE IT USED TO BE AND THE VOLUNTARY PREKINDERGARTEN PROGRAM, THE RE-PRE-K. WE WANTED TO SHARE THOSE WITH YOU. UNDER THE LOCAL REVENUE WE HAVE DISTRICT SCHOOL TAXES OR WHEN THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S OFFICE TURNS IN TO THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE IN TALLAHASSEE, THIS IS HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY TAX ROLL. THEY CERTIFY IT IN JULY AND THAT'S WHEN WE COME BACK FOR THE HEARING ON THE BUDGET. THE OTHER THING THAT ROLLS UP IN TO REVENUE IS INTEREST EARNINGS, GIFTS AND GRANTS AND THEN ANOTHER BUCKET OF MONEY IN TO LOCAL REVENUE IS SCHOOL-AGED CHILD CARE FEES OR THE HOST PROGRAM. BUT THE HOST PROGRAM IS NOT A PROFIT MAKING ENTITY. IT IS OUT THERE. WE HAVE A WONDERFUL RELATIONSHIP. IT'S NOTHING FOR THEM TO SAY, DO YOU NEED TECHNOLOGY, TEXT BOOKS, WHATEVER. SO THEY ARE ABLE TO TAKE A LOT OF -- KEEPING THEIR PROGRAMS GOING AND HELPING OUR SCHOOLS, JUST THE SCHOOLS THAT HAVE THOSE PROGRAMS. SO MS. STUART, I WAS GOING TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE INTEREST EARNINGS. SOMETIMES WHEN THE FLORIDA RETIREMENT SYSTEM INCREASES THEIR RATES IT'S BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT GETTING A RETURN AND WE KNOW WHAT THE INTEREST RATES LOOK LIKE AT THE BANKS AND FINANCIAL CONSTITUT INSTITUTIONS AND IT IS VERY LOW. WE ARE NOT SEEING THE RETURN ON THE INVESTMENTS LIKE WE USED TO. WE USED TO RECEIVE 6, $7 MILLION IN INTEREST EARNINGS AND WE HAVEN'T SEEN THAT IN A LONG TIME. SO -- UNDER EXPENDITURES. THESE ARE THE OBJECT CATEGORIES WE HAVE TO REPORT TO THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION WHEN WE REPORT OUR BUDGET AND EXPENSES. WE ARE GOING TO GO THROUGH UNDER THE SALARY BUCKET OR THE SALARY LINE AS THE INSTRUCTIONAL UNITS AN THE INSTRUCTIONAL SUPPORT UNITS. WE GET QUESTIONED ALL THE TIME ABOUT HOW MUCH ARE OUR SALARY AND BENEFITS AS A PERCENTAGE OF OUR TOTAL REVENUE? SO IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY LAST YEAR IT WAS 84%. IF YOU LOOK AT THE GENERAL OPERATING FUND, OUR SALARIES AND BENEFITS WERE 84% OF THE TOTAL REVENUE. ACROSS THE STATE, IT VARIES. IT IS ANYWHERE BETWEEN 74% TO 76 TO 80%. OUR GOAL IS TO GET THAT DOWN TO LESS THAN 80% AS WE KEEP GOING. SO, THERE WE GO ON THAT. WE WILL TOUCH MORE ON THAT LATER. LIKE I SAID THIS IS AN OVERVIEW. UNDER OUR EMPLOYEE BENEFITS SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ROLL IN TO THAT CATEGORY IS HEALTH INSURANCE, LIFE INSURANCE, SOCIAL SECURITY, MEDICARE PROGRAM, FRS, WORKERS COMP AND WHAT'S CONSIDERED AN EMPLOYEE BENEFIT ARE THE PAID HOLIDAYS. WE GET A FALL BREAK, WINTER BREAK, SPRING BREAK. SO WE WANT TO POINT THOSE OUT, TOO UNDER PURCHASE SERVICES THIS IS A BIG CATEGORY. PROFESSIONAL AND TECHNICAL SERVICES. THIS IS A LOT OF OUR CONTRACTS. THE I. FOLKS HAVE A LOT OF CONTRACTS GOING OUT THE DOOR WITH THE MAINTENANCE OF OUR PROGRAMS. THE EXCEPTIONAL STUDENT TEAM HAS A LOT OF PROGRAMS. THE INSTRUCTIONAL FOLKS HAVE A LOT OF PROGRAMS, WHETHER IT IS GEAR UP, SPARK. SOME OF THEM I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THEY MEAN. THE ACRONYMS. THE GEAR UP PROGRAM, THE IREADY FOR READING AND MATH. THE TEACHING CENTER, R ROSETTA STONE. A LOT OF CONTRACTS ARE UNDER THAT. WE VOLCANO GENERAL AWE AUTO LIABILITY. WE REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE. WHEN YOU SEE REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE, CHRIS FARKAS HAS CAPITAL DOLLARS IN HIS PURVIEW BUT THERE IS GENERAL NEIGHBORHOOD PAYS FOR A LOT OF THAT, TOO. RENTALS, IF WE HAVE RENTALS FOR LAND, BUILDINGS, EQUIPMENT, COMMUNICATIONS, THAT WILL BE THE TELEPHONE SERVICE, POSTAGE. AND UTILITIES IS EVERYTHING OTHER THAN ENERGY WHICH SOUNDS FUNNY BUT THAT IS WATER, SEWAGE AND GARBAGE COLLECTION. GASOLINE AND DIESEL FUEL. I HAVE LEARNED A LOT THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS WORKING WITH CHRIS FARKAS AND BOBBING WEMAN ON ENERGY. WE ARE LOOKING AT A DIFFERENT WAY TO LOOK AT ENERGY COSTS. HOW TO DO THINGS BETTER WITH ENERGY HVAC. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE LIGHTS, THERE'S L.E.D. LIGHTS AND T8s. I DON'T KNOW WHERE HE IS BUT ALL OF THESE NUMBERS GOING ON. A LOT OF INFORMATION OUT THERE AND HIS TEAM AS WE GO IN TO SCHOOLS IS MAKING CHANGES. THERE IS A NEW WORD CALLED DAY HARVESTING. I WAS EXCITED ABOUT THIS DAY HARVESTING IS IF YOU ARE IN A ROOM OR OFFICE, THE BRIGHTER IT IS, THE MORE THE LIGHTS GO DOWN. IT IS LIKE MOOD LIGHTING BUT IT IS INTERESTING IT IS DAY HARVESTING. YEAH, IT IS VERY EXCITING. IT IS A LITTLE SPICY BECAUSE IT IS STILL NEW. MATERIALS AND SUPPLIES. WHAT ROLLS UP TO MATERIALS AND SUPPLIES? INSTRUCTIONAL MATERIALS AND TEXT BOOKS. WE HAVE CLASSROOM MATERIALS, CUSTODIAL SUPPLIES, PERIODICALS. OIL AND GREASE REPAIR PARTS, TIRES AND TUBES. THEN FOOD COMMODITIES. THEY ARE USED TO MAINTAIN DISTRICT-OWNED VEHICLES AND OUR SCHOOL BUSES. UNDER CAPITAL OUTLAY A LOT OF THINGS ROLL UP IN TO THERE. WHAT ROLLS IN TO CAPITAL OUTLAY, LIBRARY BOOKS, AUDIO-VISUAL. THE LIBRARY BOOKS OR MEDIA CENTER -- I DIDN'T REALIZE WE DIDN'T CALL THEM LIBRARIES ANYMORE. IT IS MEDIA CENTER. THOSE ARE HARD COPY BOOKS OR ELECTRONIC, REFERENCE BOOKS, EVERYTHING YOU SEE IN THE MEDIA CENTER. THE AUDIO-VISUAL MATERIALS ARE NONCONSUMABLE MATERIALS INCLUDING DVDS, CHARTS, MAPS OR GLOBES. BUILDING AND EQUIPMENT THIS IS EXPENDITURES TO FOR BUILDINGS OR CONSTRUCT NEW AND. FURNITURE AND EQUIPMENT, PRETTY SELF EXPLANATORY, FURNISHINGS, COMPUTER HARDWARE. ALL MOTOR VEHICLES. FOR THE WHITE FLEET WE HAVE VANS, TRUCKS, FLAT BED TRUCKS, TOW TRUCKS. WE HAVE A LOT OF VEHICLES OUT THERE BECAUSE WE HAVE A BIG FLEET. REMODELING AND RENOVATION, HEATING, ELECTRICAL, PLUMBING AND COMPUTER SOFTWARE IS OUR SOFTWARE, APPLICATION SOFTWARE THAT CAN BE DATABASE MANAGEMENT OR SPREAD SHEET FUNCTIONS OR STUFF IN THE SCHOOLS. OUR LAST CATEGORY ARE OTHER EXPENSES AND WHAT ROLLS UP THERE IS RETIREMENT OF DEBT, ANY JUDGMENTS OR DUES AND FEES. SO RETIREMENT OF DEBT, YOU ARE THINKING -- WE ARE TALKING GENERAL OPERATING AND THAT IS USUALLY IN CAPITAL AND DEBT SERVICE BUT THIS IS IF WE HAD A GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND. SO IF WE WENT TO THE VOTERS, WHICH WE DID EIGHT, NINE YEARS AGO, WHERE YOU GO OUT TO THE PUBLIC AND WHEN WE DO OUR MILLEDGE OR PUBLIC HEARINGS AND OFFER A GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND. THAT WOULD BE PAYING OFF OF THAT. DUES AND FEES. PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZATION FEES, SUCH AS FLORIDA SCHOOL BOARD ASSOCIATION, FLORIDA FINANCE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION. THE ACCREDITATION BOARD. ANY PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZATION FEES AND THEN OTHER PROFESSION -- OR PERSONAL SERVICES WOULD BE SALARIES PAID TO PERSONS ON TEMPORARY ASSIGNMENTS. SO THAT'S A ROLL UP OF THE GENERAL CATEGORIES. NOW, WHEN WE TAKE THE 30,000-FOOT VIEW AND BRING IT TO THE LOCAL LEVEL. WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS 2017/18 BUDGET PICTURE. IF WE WERE TO TAKE EXPENDITURES FROM 16/17 AND LAID IT SIDE BY SIDE TO THE REVENUE NEXT YEAR WITH THE PROJECTED REVENUE WE ARE IN A DEFICIT BECAUSE THE REVENUE IS NOT THERE. SO WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS WE HAVE LOOKED AT CONTINUOUSLY WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT WHAT ARE OUR CUSTOMER NEEDS. WHO ARE OUR CUSTOMERS, OUR STUDENTS, PARENTS, OUR COMMUNITY. ARE WE MEETING THEIR NEEDS? HOW ARE WE DOING? WHAT ARE THE QUESTIONS WE ARE ASKING WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR EXPENSES? WE HAVE HAD TO TAKE A DEEP DIVE. THAT'S WHAT A LOT OF OUR MEETINGS HAVE INVOLVED. IT'S INTERESTING. SOME OF THE THINGS WE NEED FOR NEXT YEAR, JUST BASED ON THE PROJECTED NUMBERS COMING OUT OF TALLAHASSEE, WE NEED TO REDUCE SALARY EXPENSES BY 5%. JUST THE EXPENSES THEMSELVES. BY JUST REDUCING SALARIES, BENEFITS WILL GO DOWN. WE HAVE TO LOOK AT CONTRACT REDUCTION BY 20%. SUBSTITUTE PAYMENTS. EVERYTHING ELSE IS PRETTY MUCH 20% BASED ON THE PROJECTED NUMBERS OUT OF TALLAHASSEE. IF WE RECEIVE LESS THESE NUMBERS WILL GO UP. WE HOPE BY THE 20th, WE HOPE BY THE 20th WE WILL HAVE BETTER FIRM NUMBERS FOR YOU ALL. I HOPE YOU CAN SEE THIS ON YOUR PAGE. THIS IS WHERE WE TAKE THE BIG PICTURE AND BRING IT DOWN. BASED ON THE STUDENT ALLOCATION OF $100, THAT WOULD GENERATE A REVENUE FOR US OF 1.6 BILLION. THAT'S THE FIRST LINE UP THERE. 1.6 BILLION. BUT OFF THE TOP OF THAT WE AUTOMATICALLY HAVE TO COME OFF, THE DOLLARS HAVE TO COME OFF FOR THE McKAY STUDENTS OR THE VOUCHERS THAT STUDENTS GET, THE McKAY SCHOLARSHIPS AND HOME SCHOOLING. THAT IS ROUGHLY 15.4 MILLION. THAT'S WHAT THE NUMBER IS THIS YEAR. THEY REPORT EVERYTHING THROUGH US AND WE ARE A FLOW THROUGH FOR THEM. THAT'S ROUGHLY $146 MILLION. IF YOU LAY THAT ON TOP OF THAT WE TAKE A STEP BACK AN LOOK AT EXTEND CHURRS. ON THE EXPENSE SIDE. SO SALARIES. OUR ANNUAL SALARIES, AS OF THIS MORNING AT 8:14, OUR ANNUAL SALARIES WERE 996 MILLION. OTHER, YOU SEE UP THERE A CATEGORY CALLED "OTHER.  " WE HAVE SUPPLEMENTS INCLUDED IN THERE, WE HAVE BONUSES, OVERTIME. THERE IS A WHOLE CATEGORY THAT BELONGS TO THIS OTHER $93 MILLION NUMBER. ON TOP OF THAT, YOU HAVE GOT YOUR EMPLOYEE BENEFITS. SO, THAT'S ONE -- THAT'S ONE CATEGORY. YOU HAVE SALARY, EMPLOYEE BENEFITS AND PURCHASE SERVICES. THE MAJOR PART OF PURCHASE SERVICES, WE BROKE IT OUT. WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT IN A FEW MINUTES AND HOW WE ARE LOOKING AT OUR OPTIONS. ENERGY SERVICES, MATERIALS AND SUPPLIES, CAPITAL OUTLAY, OTHER. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE BOTTOM LINE, WHEN YOU TAKE YOUR REVENUE, SUBTRACT YOUR EXPENSES, WE ARE MINUS 107 MILLION. OKAY. SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT OUR REVENUES. WHAT ARE OUR PROPOSED REDUCTIONS? WHEN YOU SEE SALARIES, IF YOU LOOK AT VACANT UNITS, JUST FOR FEDERAL FUNDS, THIS IS GENERAL FUND ONLY, WE HAVE ROUGHLY 500, A LITTLE OVER 500 INSTRUCTIONAL UNITS AND A LITTLE OVER 140 NON-INSTRUCTIONAL UNITS. SO THAT'S ABOUT -- IF WE DID NOT FILL THOSE POSITIONS RIGHT NOW IT WOULD BE 4 44 MILLION,$112 HOW DO YOU GET TO THAT NUMBER? SO WHEN WE STARTED TO LOOK AT EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING, WE WANT TO RESTRUCTURE SUPPLEMENTS. SOME OF THEM AT THE SCHOOL SITES. DO WE HAVE FOLKS A THE SCHOOL SITE AND ACROSS THE BOARD. DO WE HAVE PEOPLE GETTING SUPPLEMENTS FOR THE SAME TYPE OF JOB THEY ARE ALREADY PAID FOR. FURLOUGH DAYS. HERE'S A TIDBIT. FOR EVERY DAY WE ARE IN SCHOOL, ALL EMPLOYEES, 180 DAYS, WHATEVER THE DATE TODAY, OR 12-MONTH PEOPLE, EVERYBODY WORKING, 4.9 -- IT IS $5 MILLION A DAY JUST IN SALARIES. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS -- WE ARE AN ECONOMIC ENGINE FOR THE DISTRICT. IF WE WERE TO CUT IT -- IF WE WERE TO HAVE THREE FURLOUGH DAYS IT WOULD BE $18 MILLION. NEGOTIATE ITEMS, A LOT OF THESE ARE NEGOTIATED. I JUST PUT THAT OUT THERE. FOR 12-MONTH EMPLOYEES, IF A DAY OF ONLY 12-MONTH EMPLOYEES WORKING IT IS $810,000. YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO GROUPS. WE HAVE LOOKED AT WHERE THEY CAN CUT, WHAT VACANT UNITS DO WE HAVE? HOW DO WE CHANGE OUR WAY OF WORK ON THAT? LIKE I SAID WE HAVE BEEN TALKING TO CHRIS FARKAS AND HIS AWESOME TEAM FROM OPERATIONS FOR THE HVAC AND THE ENERGY MANAGEMENT. THERE ARE FIRMS OUT THERE. THERE'S MANY DIFFERENT TYPES OF FIRMS THAT ARE CLAMORING TO GET IN TO THE DOOR BECAUSE EDUCATION IS BIG BUSINESS. WE ARE LOOKING AT ALL OF OUR OPTIONS RIGHT NOW. WE ARE WORKING WITH JOHN NEWMAN ON STUART, SAME THING ON SECURITY. WE TOUCH BASE WITH THE SR O's, WHETHER WE HAVE OUR FOLKS IN HOUSE OR WORKING WITH THE CITY AND COUNTY. WE ARE IN NEGOTIATIONS RIGHT NOW WITH THOSE FOLKS. OVERTIME, IN OUR DISTRICT, WE ARE LOOKING AT REDUCING OVERTIME NEXT YEAR BY $3 MILLION. JUST PUTTING THE BENCHMARKS OUT THERE, WHAT AND HOW CAN WE DO BETTER? TRANSPORTATION, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT A BIT. THE PROCUREMENT FOLKS, COREY AND KATHY OLSON HAVE BEEN DOING WONDERFUL. WE HAVE CONTRACTS FOR OUR FUEL THROUGH THE END OF SEPTEMBER, RIGHT, THROUGH THE END OF SEPTEMBER  AND THE PRICE IS LIKE A DOLLAR A GALLON WHICH IS WONDERFUL. OUR BIGGEST GOAL IS TO GET THROUGH HURRICANE SEASON WITH ENOUGH CONTRACTS IN PLACE SO WE HAVE CONTRACTS IF SOMETHING SHOULD HAPPEN WITH A BAD STORM WE HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE AND ARE NOT FALLING BY THE WAYSIDE TRYING TO HAVE FUEL IN TRANSPORTATION, THEY ARE REVISING ROUTING. THEY ARE MEETING AND UPDATING THEIR TEAM AND FLEET AS WE BUY NEW SCHOOL BUSES THROUGH THE SALES TAX MONEY THAT IS A SEPARATE FUNDING SOURCE. OUR GOAL WAS TO REPLACE A AND THAT WILL HELP. WE ARE SELLING 25 TO 75 SCHOOL BUSES BUT WE CAN'T FLOOD THE MARKET. YOU CAN'T TAKE A BUNCH OF SCHOOL BUSES -- A SCHOOL BUS, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO WITH A WHOLE BUNCH OF SCHOOL BUSES? WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE ATHLETICS PROGRAM. WE HAVE A GREAT ATHLETICS PROGRAM BUT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT CUTTING ACROSS THE WAY. MATERIAL AND SUPPLIES. WE HAD IT ON THE OTHER SHEET. COREY AND HER TEAM ARE WORKING WITH THE MAINTENANCE TEAM ON CUSTODIAL SUPPLIES, WHAT TO DO BETTER WITH THE VENDERS. WAX, I NEVER REALIZED HOW EXPENSIVE WAX IS, ESPECIALLY IN THE SUMMER WHEN WE DO WAX ON THE FLOORS. IT'S AMAZING. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF SUPPLEMENTS WE ARE LOOKING AT AND WE ARE WORKING WITH THE HR TEAM AND CTA ON THOSE. DUES AND FEES, WE JUST TALKED ABOUT DUES AND FEES, MEMBERSHIP. MANY TIMES WHEN WE HAVE PEOPLE WITH A MEMBERSHIP, IF THEY DO OUT FOR A MEMBERSHIP, SUCH AS FINANCE OFFICERS. LUCKILY WITH THE FINANCE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION, THERE ISN'T AN INDIVIDUAL MEMBERSHIP. YOU CAN TAKE A DISTRICT AND HAVE A DISTRICT MEMBERSHIP. IT CAN BE TRANSFERABLE. SO THE WAY WE ARE THINKING ABOUT THIS IS A LOT DIFFERENT. OUT OF COUNTY. WE HAVE OUT OF COUNTY TRAVEL CZAR, DR. VAZQUEZ AND HE HAS DONE WONDERFUL THINGS SAYING NO. EVERYBODY KNOWS, I KNOW. WE HAVE BROUGHT THAT EXPENSE DOWN TREMENDOUSLY. AGAIN, WHEN WE DID THE REFUNDING ON THE COPS WE WERE ABLE TO TRANSFER SOME OF OUR MAINTENANCE COSTS ON TO THE COPS DEAL BECAUSE WE HAD A SAVINGS. THAT'S ALMOST $1 MILLION A YEAR. THAT HELPS OUT TREMENDOUS. IT HELPS CHRIS FARKAS. IT HELPS US. EMPLOYEE BENEFITS WE ARE WORKING GREAT THINGS WITH TRACEY, MURRAY AND MARK WITH EMPLOYEE BENEFITS TRYING TO MAINTAIN AND NOT HAVE A DECREASE IN OUR FOR OUR BENEFITS. NO GREATER THAN 6% BUT WE ARE IN NEGOTIATIONS WITH THEM, TOO AS WE GO FORWARD TO GIVE YOU A SNAPSHOT, AGAIN, IT'S JUST A SNAPSHOT OF KIND OF WHAT WITH ARE LOOKING AT. JUST WITH THOSE CHANGES IT IS ABOUT $68 MILLION BUT WE ARE TRYING TO GO AFTER THE 107 MILLION. WE ARE STILL LIGHT OF $38 MILLION BUT WITH A BUDGET OUR SIZE IT IS THERE. WE JUST HAVE TO LOOK HARDER AND DEEPER. SO I'M GOING TO KEEP GOING. I KNOW YOU HAVE A TON OF QUESTIONS BUT I WILL KEEP GOING. ONE LAST THING WE ARE GOING TO DO. TWO THINGS. WE HAVE AN ACTIVITY, PATTY, YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT OUR ACTIVITY?  

>> GOOD MORNING. IN THE SPIRIT OF GETTING YOUR FEEDBACK, WE HAVE A BLUE SHEET WITH YOUR MATERIAL AND WE'D LIKE YOUR INPUT ON THE STRATEGIES YOU THINK MIGHT BE MOST HELPFUL OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO START WITH WHAT JUMPS OUT TO YOU AS NUMBER ONE AND WORK THROUGH THE LIST TO RANK THOSE ITEMS AND WE'LL COLLECT THEM AT THE END. THANK YOU.  

>> AND THAT IS REALLY GOING TO HELP US A LOT GOING TOWARD THE JUNE 20th BOARD MEETING. NOT JUST UP THERE, PUT YOUR NOTES UP THERE, TOO. YOU HAVE A COMMENTS PAGE ABOUT HOW THE WONDERFUL WORKSHOP IS GOING AND HOW YOU LOVE THE BUSINESS TEAM BUT WE'D TAKE YOUR INPUTT AND RUN WITH THIS. AND I WANT TO GET AN UPDATE ON THE UNITS AND HOW WE HANDLE AND WORK WITH OUR UNITS AND OUR AWESOME TEAM.  

>> GOOD MORNING. I'M GOING TO ECHO WHAT MR. EAKINS AND MS. SAUNDERS SAID ABOUT THE IDEA OF AN ONGOING PROCESS. WHEN YOU ALLOCATE AND ADJUST IT CAN NEVER STOP. TENS OF THOUSANDS OF UNITS ON THE BOOKS, IT MUST BE A PROCESS TO LOOK OVER, OVERVIEW THEM AND DO WHAT WE NEED TO. THE UNDERCURRENT UNDER EVERYTHING IS THE IDEA WHEN WE HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH SCHOOL SITES, LEADERSHIP TEAM AND SUPERINTENDENTS IS FISCAL STEWARDSHIP. WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH YOUR RESOURCES? HOW CAN YOU GET THE MOST BANG FOR YOUR BUCK WITH WHAT YOU CURRENTLY HAVE? IN THAT SPIRIT, ON TUESDAY, MR. EAKINS, DR. VAZQUEZ, DR. WEE  -- SET SOME GOALS TO LOOK AT THE VACANCIES FIRST. ARE THERE AREAS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN FILLED WE CAN REDUCE? CAN WE ADJUST? IT IS THAT ONGOING CONVERSATION. WE MUST REMEMBER THAT DELICATE BALANCE BETWEEN WHAT FISCALLY WE NEED TO DO AS STEWARDS OF OUR DISTRICT AND WHAT ARE YOU STUDENTS NEED IN THE CLASSROOM AND THAT PIECE CAN NEVER BE FORGOTTEN. THE IDEA IN THOSE UNITS  GET THE STUDENTS TEST SCORES AND DREAMS AND GOALS ACCOMPLISHED ALSO THE IDEA OF THINK OUT OF THE BOX. I'M GOING TO USE THE TERM T PAYROLL. I WILL DEFINE WHAT IT IS. THEY ARED A PERS IS WHAT THEY ARE CALLED. THE EXTRA PERIOD THE TEACHER WOULD TAKE ON DURING THE DAY TO DECREASE CLASS SIZE AND HELP OUT THE CLASS SIZE AMENDMENT AND MAKE SURE EVERYONE IS MEETING IT. WE HAVE A PROJECTION. WE HAVE KIDS PROJECTED TO BE IN THE SCHOOLS BUT MANY THINGS HAPPEN OVER THE SUMMER. STUDENTS LEAVE, MOVE, GO TO ANOTHER OPTION EDUCATIONALLY. HOPEFULLY WITHIN OUR BOUNDARIES. BUT IT IS THE IDEA THAT AS YOU LOOK AT THEM CAN WE DECREASE A T PAYROLL. IT DOESN'T AFFECT IN TERMS OF OUR TEACHERS LOSING A POSITION IN THE SCHOOL BUT AN EXTRA POSITION THAT WOULD BE MINIMIZED. AGAIN THAT SAVINGS. GET CREATIVE, THINK OF WHAT YOU WANT TO DO FOR YOUR SCHOOL SITES AND DOES IT WORK FOR YOU? AND THE CONVERSATION WITH THE UNDERCURRENT OF FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY IS THE KEY. THAT'S THE PROCESS AS WE LOOK, WE ADJUST AT THE FALL WITH THE FIVE AND 20-DAY COUNT. IT IS A CONVERSATION THAT HAS TO BE HONEST AND OPEN, AGAIN, BALANCED. WHAT ARE DO OUR KIDS NEED AND HOW ARE WE THE BEST FINANCIAL STEWARDS TO MAKE SURE THE DISTRICT MOVES IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. THANK YOU, MS. SAUNDERS.  

>> OKAY. WE WILL OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS.  

>> THANK YOU, GUYS, FOR THE PRESENTATION. I APPRECIATE. IT. MR. SUPERINTENDENT, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD?  

>> Jeffrey Eakins: OBVIOUSLY HARD TIMES. WE HAVE SOME DIFFICULT DECISIONS TO MAKE. I WANT TO MAKE SOME CLARIFICATIONS AROUND -- THANK YOU, GRETCHEN AND YOUR TEAM FOR YOUR PRESENTATION AND YOUR DILIGENCE AS WE TRY TO GET WHERE WE NEED TO GET FOR OUR BUDGET, BUT ULTIMATELY TO SERVE OUR STUDENTS. A COUPLE OF THINGS STOOD OUT TO ME AS WE PUT THIS PRESENTATION TOGETHER. FIRST OF ALL, GRETCHEN, IS THAT GOING TO GO BACK UP? CAN YOU PUT THAT BACK UP AND GO TO SLIDE 20. VIOLA. OKAY. SO A COUPLE OF THINGS TO KNOW. OBVIOUSLY, WE HAVE TO PLAN -- FIRST OF ALL, WE HAVE TO PLAN WITH WHAT WE DON'T KNOW RIGHT NOW. THAT'S SOME OF THE CHALLENGES IN PUTTING THIS TOGETHER. SECONDLY -- SO LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE FIRST TWO CATEGORIES THAT GRETCHEN TOOK OFF THE TOP OF THE PROJECTED FUND REVENUE. SOME OF THOSE ARE STUDENTS THAT OBVIOUSLY THE McKAY IS A STATE STATUTE. THAT WAS PASSED SEVERAL YEARS AGO. STUDENTS CAN LEAVE IF THEY HAVE AN IEP. I BELIEVE IF THEY HAVE A 504 PLAN NOW, AS WELL THEY ARE PERMITTED TO RECEIVE A McKAY SCHOLARSHIP THAT IS FUNDS THAT WE GET, NOT THE FUNDS THAT THE STATE SETS ASIDE BUT COME AS PART OF OUR GENERAL REVENUE AND NOW STUDENTS OF FAMILIES WHO LIVE IN OUR BOUNDARY AND THEY MAKE A CHOICE BECAUSE THEY HAVE AN IEP OR 504 PLAN TO GO TO ANOTHER SCHOOL, PARTICULARLY A PRIVATE SCHOOL TO RECEIVE THAT TYPE OF SERVICE. SO IT IS FUNDING THAT OBVIOUSLY WE WANT TO DO EVERYTHING TO SUPPORT THE NEEDS OF STUDENTS BUT FAMILIES KNOW THEY HAVE THIS SCHOLARSHIP AVAILABLE TO THEM. THAT COMES OFF OF OUR REVENUE. IT'S NOT A SPECIAL POT OF FUNDS JUST FOR THAT SCHOLARSHIP. THE SECOND ITEM, THE CHARTER SCHOOL PAYMENTS, THE NUMBER OF 146,972. THERE'S A NUMBER OF SLOTS THAT HAVE BEEN DEEMED FOR ALL OF THE CHARTER SCHOOLS. SO OBVIOUSLY THAT IS A NUMBER AT THE MAX. THAT WOULD BE IF EVERY SEAT WAS FILLED IN EVERY CHARTER SCHOOL ACROSS HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY THAT WOULD BE THE DRIVEN REVENUE THAT WOULD PAY FOR THE EDUCATION OF THE STUDENTS IN THOSE PARTICULAR SITES. OF COURSE WHAT WE ARE DOING AT THE SAME TIME, AN ANALYSIS OF WHAT WERE THE FILL RATE AND ATTENDANCES AT OUR SCHOOLS THIS YEAR OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE TO THINK OF THE MAX. THAT COULD BE THE REALITY BUT WE MAY BE ABLE TO, IF IT ENDS UP 90, 95% THAT NUMBER GETS LOWER. THEREFORE OUR BOTTOM LINE IS LIGHTER AS FAR AS THE OVERALL NUMBER THAT WE ARE TRYING TO CHASE. THEY ARE THINGS IN THE BUDGET WE ARE MONITORING OTHER WAYS, OTHER THAN JUST SAYING WE HAVE TO PROVIDE THE DOLLARS. WE DO ADJUSTMENTS TO CHARTER SCHOOLS BASED OFF THE NOVEMBER FTE, AS WELL THEY GET ADJUSTMENTS LIKE OUR SCHOOLS GET BUT IT IS A FACTOR WE HAVE TO REALIZE IS PART OF OUR BUDGET. OBVIOUSLY, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT REDUCING SALARY COSTS, WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IS THE NUMBERS OF EMPLOYEES AND LOOKING AT EVERY SINGLE CORNER OF OUR ORGANIZATION WITH REGARD TO THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES. NOT TALKING ABOUT REDUCING PEOPLE'S SALARIES. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE PUT THAT OUT THIS SO WE DON'T ALARM EVERYONE TOMORROW THAT EVERYONE WILL BE RECEIVING A 85% RE5% REDUCTIONIN THEIR SALARIES. THAT'S NOT WHAT THAT MEANT. IT IS WHAT WE DO IN REGARDS TO HOW WE HANDLE OUR WORK FORCE. I WILL TELL YOU, WE HAVE LOOKED THROUGH WHERE WE THINK WE NEED TO GET. GRETCHEN POINTED OUT THE TOTAL. OUR CURRENT -- A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO IT WAS 86%. REDEUCEED OUR PERCENTAGE OF BUDGET THAT IS SALARY COST TO 84%. WE REALLY BELIEVE BASED OFF -- YOU LOOK AT THE OTHER DISTRICTS ABOUT OUR SIZE, THEY ARE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 76 AND 80 IS THEIR RANGE AND THAT'S PROBABLY ABOUT THE RIGHT RANGE TO BE IN FOR SALARY COSTS SO YOU CAN TAKE CARE OF YOUR OPERATIONAL NEEDS YOU NEED TO TAKE CARE OF. RIGHT NOW WE ARE TIPPED OVER ON THE SALARY COSTS AND WE BELIEVE IT IS A NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES ISSUE THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND BE CAREFUL AS WE GO THROUGH THAT TO NOT -- AS TO NOT TO IMPACT WHAT IS OUR PRIDE AND JOY AND THAT'S THE INSTRUCTION THAT TAKE PLACE IN THE CLASSROOM AND THE IMPACT ON STUDENTS. THAT'S TOUGH TEMPERATURE THAT'S PEOPLE BEING AFFECTED SOMEHOW. IF YOU REDUCE THE OVERALL WORK FORCE AND WE ARE DOING IT RIGHT NOW. THE FIRST THING WE PUT A FREEZE ON THIS PAST MONDAY. WE ARE ALLOWING INTERNAL EMPLOYEES TO MOVE WITHIN THE DISTRICT. BUT AT EVERY LEVEL PEOPLE ARE STILL MOVING IN THOSE KINDS OF WAYS AND THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY INCREASE THE SALARY COST. WE ARE ALLOWING SOME INTERVIEW PROCESSES COME TO COMPLETION THAT WE STARTED PRIOR TO THE FREEZE AND ALL OF THAT, BUT NOW WE ARE TO THE POINT WE HAVE TO FIND OUT WHAT THAT NUMBER IS. THAT'S WHY YOU DO THE FREEZE. YOU DO THE FREEZE TO FIND OUT, LIKE GRETCHEN APPLIED THE $44 MILLION NUMBER. IF WE JUST KNEW WE COULD REDUCE THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES, WE HAD VACANCIES NOW WHERE WOULD WE BE? NOW WE HAVE A MORE REALISTIC NUMBER WHAT WE PLAN FOR OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS AND THROUGH THIS YEAR. BUT TO GET TO THE 76 TO 80% RANGE, I THINK THAT NUMBER NEEDS TO BE A LITTLE MORE THAN THAT SO WE HAVE TO THINK PROBABLY A TWO-YEAR WINDOW OF HOW WE REDUCE DOWN TO GET IN THAT SPACE THAT WE NEED TO GET TO. AND MAKE SURE WE DO IT RIGHT BY OUR CURRENT EMPLOYEES. THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE SEND A MESSAGE TO. WE DO A FREEZE TO MAKE SURE WE PROTECT OUR CURRENT EMPLOYEES. RIGHT NOW THE EMPLOYEES THAT AREN'T WITH US, THE FUTURE EMPLOYEES, ONES OUT THERE IN OTHER JOBS THAT MIGHT LOOK FOR HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY. WE'D LOVE FOR THEM TO COME AND WORK BUT ONLY WHEN WE HAVE JOBS WE CAN SUSTAIN. SO IT IS TAKING THE MEASURES WE CAN RIGHT NOW TO PROTECT OUR GREAT EMPLOYEES WE HAVE AND AS WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF ANALYSIS AND WHAT'S GETTING THE BIGGEST RETURN ON INVESTMENT AND REALLY GET TO THE PLACE THAT WE NEED TO BE WE HAVE TO MARRY THIS -- I SAID IT AT OTHER WORKSHOPS WITH NOW HOW WE DETERMINE INSTRUCTION NEEDS IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY. WE ARE STILL USING THE MOTTO WE USED FOR AGES IN HOW WE SET UP COURSES AND CLASSES, AND WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THE DELIVERY OF INSTRUCTION AND HOW THAT MIGHT BENEFIT US IN THE THOUGHT PROCESS AS WE GET TO THE SPACE OF WHAT IS THE RIGHT LEVEL OF EMPLOYEE RANKS WE NEED IN OUR DISTRICT. THAT'S WHY IT IS IMPORTANT FOR US, AS WE DID IN GRADUATIONS TO TALK TO STUDENTS. I LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE THAT IMPACTED THEM THE MOST. THEY TALK ABOUT TEACHER AND STUDENTS, SERVICES AND STAFF AND PEOPLE THAT ADVOCATED FOR THEM AND THAT'S IMPORTANT. OTHER PEOPLE ARE, AS WELL AND WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THEIR VOICES ARE PART OF THE CONVERSATION. THEY GET THE SERVICES ON THEIR END. WHAT WILL BENEFIT THEM AND HOW DO WE BETTER PREPARE THEM FOR THEIR FUTURE? I WANTED TO PROVIDE THAT CLARIFICATION AROUND THE CONVERSATION THIS MORNING BECAUSE I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT WHY WE KNOW WHY WE DO CERTAIN THINGS AT CERTAIN TIMES AND HOW WE GET TO THE NUMBERS TO GET THE BOTTOM LINE WHERE IT SAYS ZERO. THAT MEANS WE ARE BALANCED. OKAY.  

>> THANK YOU, SUPERINTENDENT. BOARD MEMBERS, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, PLEASE KEEP IN MIND ALSO THAT IT IS 9:49. WE HAVE AN HOUR AND TEN MINUTES, BUT WE HAVE A FULL DAY WORKSHOP COMING UP ON THE 20th, WHICH IS OFF SITE TO KEEP US ALL IN ONE PLACE AT STUDENT NUTRITION.  

>> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION THIS MORNING AND YOUR COMMENTS, SUPERINTENDENT. I HAD A QUESTION REGARDING THE UNDER PURCHASE SERVICES, I'M GLAD TO SEE WE ARE SCALING BACK ON OUR CONTRACTS TO THE DEGREE OF $10 MILLION. MY QUESTION WOULD BE -- AND MAYBE THIS IS SOMETHING YOU CAN COME BACK -- BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT DR. VAZQUEZ HAS BEEN WORKING ON FOR THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF. WHAT I'D LOVE TO UNDERSTAND IS THE PROCESS THAT YOU USE IN ORDER TO DETERMINE HOW WE REDUCE OUR PURCHASE SERVICES IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA. YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S A WAY WE CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT MATRIX THAT YOU USE, WHERE THE MONEY IS COMING FROM, THE AGREEMENT, THE LENGTH OF THE AGREEMENT, HOW DO WE DETERMINE THE VALUE OF THE AGREEMENT IF WE ARE GETTING A RETURN ON THE INVESTMENT WE HAVE MADE? WHAT METRICS DO WE USE AND WHAT EVALUATION PROCESS DO WE USE TO TERM WHAT THOSE PURCHASE SERVICES ARE DOING AND HOW THEY IMPACT OUR SCHOOL DISTRICTS. I'D BE REALLY CURIOUS TO SEE THE PROCESS YOU USE FOR THAT TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THAT PARTICULAR REDUCTION IN PURCHASE SERVICES.  

>> Jeffrey Eakins: I CAN PROBABLY GIVE YOU A QUICK VERSION. IT DEPENDS ON EACH DIVISION AND THE UNIQUENESS OF THE DELIVERY OF THE SERVICES OF EACH OF THE DIVISIONS. SO IF I AM LOOKING AT A CONTRACT, YOU KNOW, PROCUREMENT HAS A PROCESS OF VETTING OUT THE BIDDING PROCESS AND SO FORTH. WHEN YOU LOOK AT EXISTING CONTRACTS AND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT, HOW DOES IT IMPACT STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT IS THE QUESTION THAT GUIDE THE CONVERSATION. THE SECOND ONE IS ACTUALLY LOOKING AT HISTORICAL EXPENSES THAT WERE PAID TO THE COMPANY AND THEN THE PROPOSED INITIAL REQUEST. FOR EXAMPLE, IF A CONTRACT IS GOING TO COME FORWARD AND IS FOR $1.5 MILLION BUT IN THE LAST THREE YEARS THE DISTRICT PAID OUT 800,000, I THINK A CONVERSATION NEEDS TO HAPPEN ABOUT PROBABLY CREATING AN AMENDMENT TO THAT CONTRACT TO REQUEST LESS SINCE THE HISTORICAL DATA SHOWS WE HAVE ONLY PAID 800,000 THERE A YEAR. WHY ARE WE ASKING FOR 1.5. MAYBE WE SHOULD ASK FOR $1 MILLION. THESE ARE THE CONVERSATIONS WE ARE HAVING. THERE'S A UNIQUENESS TO THE CONVERSATIONS BASED ON THE SERVICES PROVIDED AT EACH DIVISION. I CAN HIGHLIGHT THOSE POINTS FOR THE BOARD SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT ARE THE QUESTIONS BEING ASKED. BECAUSE THE QUESTIONS FOR ESC CONTRACTS ARE DIFFERENT THAN MS. COOK'S DIVISION AND TEACHING AND LEARNING. I CAN PROVIDE THOSE GUIDED QUESTIONS.  

>> Melissa Snively: I'M GLAD TO HEAR OVERALL STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT IS THE OVERARCHING QUESTION BASED ON THAT INFORMATION. PERHAPS YOU CAN SHARE WITH US AT THE NEXT WORKSHOP WHICH CONTRACTS WE WILL BE REDUCING, WHAT'S THAT IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE. AND WHAT CONTRACTS WILL BE IN PLACE AND MAYBE PROVIDE A LITTLE DETAILED INFORMATION ABOUT THAT, IF YOU DON'T MIND. THEN, THE NEXT QUESTION -- THANK YOU, DR. VAZQUEZ. THE NEXT QUESTION ON THIS BLUE SHEET. WHO'S GETTING THIS AGAIN? IS THIS FOR US OR.  

>> IT'S FOR YOU TO FILL IN AND TELL US WHAT YOU WANT US TO LOOK OUT FOR JUNE 20th? WHAT ARE THE PRIORITIES, WHAT DO YOU WANT TO LOOK AT FOR POSSIBLE EXPENDITURE REDUCTIONS  

>> Jeffrey Eakins: WE CAN PUT TOGETHER WHAT WOULD IT LOOK LIKE IN SOME SCENARIOS AND THE IMPACTS IT WOULD HAVE ON THE OVERALL DELIVERY OF THOSE SERVICES.  

>> Melissa Snively: OKAY. WHERE WOULD I GET ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON HOW EACH OF THESE ARE IMPACTING? IT IS DIFFICULT FOR ME TO DECIDE WHICH FINGER TO CUT OFF IF I DON'T KNOW WHETHER I'M RIGHT HANDED OR LEFT-HANDED OR WHETHER I'M A SURGEON OR.  

>> WE CAN WORK ON THAT TOGETHER  

>> Melissa Snively: THAT WOULD BE AWESOME. BECAUSE THESE ARE DIFFICULT PRIORITIES -- DIFFICULT TO PRIORITIZE IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE ADEQUATE INFORMATION TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS. SO, ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.  

>> THANK YOU. NEXT UP IS MS. VALDES.  

>> Susan Valdes: THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU, MS. SAUNDERS FOR THE PRESENTATION TODAY AND FOR GOING DEEPER IN TO THE PROCESS OF WHAT WE DO. MY QUESTION TO THIS SLIDE HERE, THE ANNUAL SALARIES PROPOSED REDUCTION, MR. EAKINS, IS THAT MS. SAUNDERS REFERENCED OR.  

>> THIS IS STILL IN PROCESS. THIS IS NOT A COMPLETED TEMPLATE HERE. WE HAVE INSTRUCTIONAL VACANCY SAND SUPPORT VACANCIES. I HAVE ASKED HER TO GET THE ADMINISTRATIVE VACANCIES. SO THOSE ARE STILL COMING WE WILL CONTINUE TO COMPLETE THIS AS WE GO FORWARD. SOME OF THE VACANCIES, ONCE AGAIN, WE MAY CONSIDER TO BE ESSENTIAL. FOR INSTANCE, WITH THE FREEZE PUT ON LAST WEEK, WE KEPT THE HIRING PROCESS FOR OUR BUS DRIVERS. WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE AN INFRASTRUCTURE AND FLEET TO DELIVER ON THAT END OF IT. SO WE WILL -- THAT'S A WORK IN PROGRESS. I DID NOTICE AND GRETCHEN REMINDED ME ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, WE WILL PROBABLY ALSO WITH THE PROPOSED REDUCTION THAT YOU HAVE BASED OFF JUST THAT NUMBER WE WOULD PROBABLY NEED TO ADD A PROPOSED REDUCTION WHERE IT SAYS EMPLOYEE BENEFITS. BECAUSE THE SALARIES AFFECTS IT. THAT WILL BE ANOTHER THING WE WILL FILL IN HERE WHICH WILL MAKE OUR BOTTOM LINE BETTER.  

>> Susan Valdes: GREAT. OKAY. ALSO IF WE WERE TO GO -- I'M NOT SURE WHAT SLIDE NUMBER THIS IS, ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, WHERE WE TALK ABOUT MEDICAID REIMBURSEMENT. THAT ONE IS -- I KNOW IT'S VERY -- IT'S IMPORTANT TO US. I WONDER, WHAT ARE THE ACTUAL -- ARE WE BILLING -- ARE WE MAXIMIZING OUR BILLING POTENTIAL? NUMBER ONE. AND SOME OF THE FEES THAT BOARD MEMBERS THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY FILE FOR, FOR INSTANCE IF WE DO A NEBULIZER TREATMENT FOR A STUDENT AND ARE PROVIDING THAT, THAT'S A BILLABLE SERVICE. SO THAT'S WHY THE QUESTION OF ARE WE REALLY CAPTURING EVERYTHING THAT WE ARE DOING ON A BILL SO THAT WE CAN MAXIMIZE THAT PORTION OF IT. BUT THE OTHER ASPECT OF THAT IS HOW MUCH DO WE STAND TO POTENTIALLY LOSE OUT RIGHT NOW? IF WE WERE TO JUST -- WE ARE WATCHING IT AND REALLY DON'T KNOW.  

>> Jeffrey Eakins: IT COULD BE DEVASTATING  

>> Susan Valdes: WHAT WOULD BE MOST DEVASTATING.  

>> $12 MILLION  

>> Susan Valdes: $12 MILLION, OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. HOW MUCH DO WE GET REIMBURSED RIGHT NOW, THE 12 MILLION?  

>> ANYWHERE BETWEEN 11 AND 12 MILLION A YEAR. UH-HUH.  

>> Susan Valdes: OKAY. IN REFERENCE TO THE EMPLOYEE BENEFITS, AND AS WE ARE LOOKING TO -- I NO THAT WE NEED TO REDUCE. WE NEED TO MAKE REDUCTIONS ACROSS THE BOARD. I HOPE WE CAN STILL WORK WITH THE INSURANCE COMPANIES WITH HUMANA TO CONTINUE TO ENSHOWER THATO ENSURETHAT WE HAVE A PLAN FOR OUR EMPLOYEES THAT IS FREE OF CHARGE.  

>> IF I COULD SPEAK TO THAT. IS THAT OKAY? WE ARE CURRENTLY NEGOTIATING OUR 2018 INSURANCE RATES WITH HUMANA. WE HAVE SURVEYED LARGE DISTRICTS THROUGHOUT THE STATE AND OUR RATE CONTINUE TO BE THE LOWEST. THE EXPECTED TREND NATIONALLY IS BETWEEN 8.5 TO 8.8%, NOT INCLUDING THE TAXES THAT WILL BE ACT THAT WE STILL HAVE TO HAVE IN PLACE. SO WE ARE WORKING DILIGENTLY TO KEEP OUR INCREASE TO NO MORE THAN 6% IN 2018.  

>> Susan Valdes: THAT IS A LOT. YEAH. I GET THAT. 4 MILLION. I THINK THERE'S OTHER WAYS IN WHICH WE CAN STILL OFFER EMPLOYEES A PROGRAM AT NO COST. AND BE ABLE TO FIND SAVINGS IN A DIFFERENT WAY. MAYBE STICKING TO ENROLLMENT PERIODS. I DON'T KNOW OF ANY EMPLOYER THAT DOES THAT. I BELIEVE THERE'S OTHER WAYS WE ARE ABLE TO FRAME THE CONVERSATION TO BE ABLE TO STILL REACH THE GOAL OF BEING ABLE TO OFFER OUR EMPLOYEES A PLAN. THAT'S IMPORTANT. IT REALLY IS IMPORTANT CONSIDERING -- I'M THINKING OF MY HCF WORKERS IN THE NONINSTRUCTIONAL SIDE WHERE -- ALTHOUGH WE HAVE DONE NICELY FOR THEM THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS, THANK YOU, MR. EAKINS FOR TAKING THEM IN TO CONSIDERATION AND GIVING THEM A BOOST IN THEIR SALARIES, BUT IT'S STILL NOT AT THE SAME RATE, IF YOU WILL, AS IN THE PAST. SO I DON'T BELIEVE -- ANY WAYS I WON'T SAY THAT. I JUST WANT US TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE COGNIZANT OF THAT. I WILL SAVE THE OTHER REMARKS IN REFERENCE TO THE INSURANCE TO THE ONE ON THE 20th. ALSO, I WANTED TO ASK FOR THE MATERIALS AND SUPPLIES, OIL AND GREASE, REPAIR PARTS, TIRES AND TUBES, THAT'S NOT FOR INSTRUCTIONAL PURPOSES, THOUGH. THAT BUCKET DOES NOT FALL THERE. THAT WOULD BE WORK FORCE AT THAT POINT. FOR AUTO MECHANICS.  

>> THAT'S FOR OUR REGULAR FLEET OF VEHICLES  

>> Susan Valdes: MY QUESTION IS BECAUSE YOU MADE A POINT TO STATE THE FOOD COMMODITIES WERE NOT WHAT WE ARE THINKING, THAT FUND. THE SAME GOES WITH THE OIL, GREASE, REPAIR PARTS AND TIRES.  

>> NO. THAT IS TOTALLY SEPARATE. THAT IS THE DEPARTMENT'S DEFINITION OF WHAT WE CAUGHT THE LIGHT OR WORKING FLEET BUT NOT INSTRUCTIONAL. THAT'S NOT PART OF THE INSTRUCTIONAL CLASSROOM EXPENSES. IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE ASKING?  

>> Susan Valdes: CORRECT. SO CAN SOME OF THESE CONTRACTS THAT WE HAVE WITH THESE INDIVIDUALS BE PIGGYBACKED AND CARRY OUR INSTRUCTIONAL FOR AUTO MECHANICS, FOR INSTANCE? WE MIGHT HAVE A BETTER DEAL HERE WITHIN OUR CONTRACTS THAN WE WOULD IF WE HAVE TO NOW WORK FORCE DEVELOPMENT HAS TO GO OUT AND MAKE THEIR OWN CONTRACT.  

>> I DON'T KNOW BUT I CAN FIND OUT. THAT'S A GREAT SUGGESTION.  

>> Susan Valdes: JUST A THOUGHT. UNDER CAPITAL OUTLAY, WHAT IS OUR SURPLUS PROPERTY? WHAT IS OUR SURPLUS PROPERTY? WHAT IS THE VALUE OF THAT? WHAT IS SELLABLE? WHAT IS WASTE THAT WE JUST HAVE A PIECE OF PROPERTY JUST -- I DON'T KNOW FOR WHATEVER REASONS. I'VE ASKED FOR THAT INFORMATION IN THE PAST AS FAR AS THE ACTUAL VALUE AND AGAIN HAVE WE RECENTLY DONE AN APPRAISAL AND DO WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE OWN AND WHAT WE ARE PLANNING TO DO WITH THAT? I WILL GIVE UP THE FLOOR TO LISTEN TO MY FELLOW COLLEAGUES AND CHIME IN LATER ON, IF NEED BE.  

>> Cindy Stuart: THANK YOU MS. VALDES. MS. GRAY  

>> Lynn Gray: THANK YOU GRETCHEN AND MS. VALDES AND THE TEAM THAT GAVE US A DEPRESSING OVERVIEW BUT A NECESSARY ONE AND I APPRECIATE IT AS WE ALL DO. I AM REMINDED I REPRESENT THE ENTIRE COUNTY AND AS SUCH I'M REMINDED THE MAJOR GOALS WE HAVE, THAT I HAVE HEARD, I WANT TO BE VOCAL. THE FIRST GOAL HAS BEEN SAID, THANK YOU, SUPERINTENDENT EAKINS AND DR. V. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE MINIMIZE, WHEREVER POSSIBLE, IMPACT TO CHILDREN. WE WANT TO ALSO -- THIS IS THE SECOND ONE, WE WANT TO IMPROVE TEACHER MORALE, NOT TAKE IT AWAY BY ANY CUTS WHICH WE HAVE INDICATED WE WILL NOT DO. THIRDLY, WE HAVE TO IMPROVE. HERE'S SOME IDEAS. WITH THAT IN MIND AT ALL TIMES KEEPING OUR CHILDREN THE CENTER FOCUS IN THE LENS OF EVERYTHING THAT WE DO,S HERE'S SOME SUGGESTIONS THAT I HAVE COME UP WITH, AND ACTUALLY TO GIVE GRETCHEN SOME CREDIT, NUMBER ONE, PROGRAMS. WE HAVE GREAT EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS ARE WE GETTING THE RETURN ON OUR INVESTMENT? YOU KNOW THAT I HAVE SPOKEN SINCE I HAVE BEEN HERE AS A REAL BIG CHEERLEADER ON ALMOST EVERY PROGRAM, BUT NOW I THINK THINGS ARE DIFFERENT. AND WE ARE CHECKING OUR PHONES RIGHT NOW TO SEE HOW MUCH DIFFERENCE THERE WILL BE. NUMBER ONE, ARE WE HAVING DATA GIVEN TO US SHOWING THE PROGRAM IS EFFECTIVE? NUMBER TWO, ARE WE KNOWING WITH FULL FIDELITY THAT OUR KIDS, ALL KIDS ARE ENGAGED? AND LASTLY, MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE SHOWING THAT OUR ACHIEVEMENT OR OBJECTS ARE BEING MET DIRECTLY. SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS LET'S RECHECK OUR PROGRAMS AND MAKE SURE WE ARE GETTING UPDATED REPORTS ON WHETHER THEY ARE RETURNING ON THE INVESTMENTS. WE MAY HAVE TO DROP SOME. BUT AGAIN, AND I KNOW THAT WE HAVE CTA HERE. I'M NOT MENTIONING -- I WANT TO COVER OUR TEACHERS AT ALL TIMES BECAUSE IF WE DON'T THAT, ALL OF OUR SUPERINTENDENT'S OBJECTIVES AND GOALS AND ALL OF OUR SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS, THEY CANNOT BE MET WITH A HIGH AMOUNT OF TEACHER MORALE. ALL RIGHT. MY OUT OF THE BOX CONTINUANCE, NUMBER ONE, I'D LIKE TO KEEP THE SALARY STRUCTURE, WHICH DOES GIVE A $3,000 INCREASE EACH THREE YEARS. IT'S ALREADY BEEN NEGOTIATED. I DON'T WANT TO SEE THINGS TAKEN AWAY. SECONDLY, I BELIEVE THE TEAM LEADERS AND DEPARTMENT HEADS WITH ALL OF THE RESOURCE TEACHERS OF THE GATES GRANT WHICH I NEVER HEARD OF BECAUSE I WAS A TEACHER SINCE 1976, WE DID IT WITHOUT THE RESOURCE COACHES AND MENTORS. I GUESS MAYBE ONCE IN A WHILE I WAS CALLED TO MENTOR. I DON'T THINK WE NEED THOSE POSITIONS. I THINK THE TEACHER THE DEPARTMENT HEAD, THE LEAD TEACHER CAN BE THE MENTOR. IN ESSENCE I'M SAYING ELIMINATE AND RESTRUCTURE SUPPLEMENTAL RESOURCE SITE TEACHERS AND OTHER INSTRUCTIONAL POSITIONS BASED FROM THE GATES GRANT. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. SO THAT WILL HAVE A COST SAVINGS. SECONDLY, I BELIEVE TRANSFERS -- WHEN WE HAVE TEACHERS TRANSFERRING FROM PINEELLAS TORE HILLSBOROUGH OR LIKE MIST BECAUSE OF A $2,000 INCREASE, I WAS MYSELF AND OH TEACHERS DO GET, THEY KEEP THEIR SAME STEPS. I'D LIKE TO SEE THEM COME TO OUR COUNTY BASED ON STEP ONE, VERSUS GIVING THEM A STEP INCREASE AUTOMATICALLY. WE MAY HAVE ALREADY BEEN DOING THIS BUT I DON'T THINK SO. BEFORE WE GET TO JUMPING OFF OF BUILDINGS HERE, AND ON THE EVALUATION GAINS TRACTION WITH OUR STEP PROGRAM. LASTLY, I BELIEVE WE NEED TO EMPLOY MORE FIRST-YEAR TEACHERS BECAUSE THE LOWER PAY SCALE, THAT WOULD SAVE MONEY, AS WELL AND WE HAVE IN OUR AUDIENCE, TRICIA SHAH McMAHON ISstS AND SHE CAN COME UP TO SPEED AND HANDLE THAT AND GET THEM GOING AND BETWEEN USF, THEIR INTERN PROGRAM AND HFC, I BELIEVE WE CAN PREPARE FIRST YEAR TEACHER AND DO A BETTER JOB. I'M JUST THROWING THIS OUT THERE. ALSO LASTL ON SITE A SCHOOL PRINCIPAL ARE SO SHORTCHANGED ON CLERICAL, I CAN'T IMAGINE THEM REDUCING ONE MORE SECRETARY UNLESS I HAVE SEEN A DIFFERENT SCHOOL WORLD AND I HAVE BEEN TO TOO MANY SCHOOLS TO KNOW THAT SECRETARIRIES, CUSTODIAL ARE KEY TO RUNNING A SCHOOL. AGAIN, WE ARE REMINDED AGAIN AND AGAIN IN THIS BUILDING, RIGHT NOW, THAT WE ARE WANTING TO MINIMIZE THE IMPACT TO CHILDREN. LET'S CONTINUE OUR VENTING ACTIVITIES. THANKS.  

>> THANK YOU. MS. GRIFFIN  

>> April Griffin: APRIL.  

>> IT'S FRUSTRATING THAT WE ARE PITTED AGAINST ONE ANOTHER AS EDUCATORS. IT'S TURNING IN TO US VERSUS THEM. IT'S TURNING IN TO BUS DRIVERS VERSUS TEACHER SAND LUNCHROOM LADIES AND SECRETARYIAN AND SUPPORT STAFF AND SECURITY WHICH I KNOW OUR PARENTS WOULD BE UPSET IF WE CUT SECURITY IN OUR SCHOOLS ESPECIALLY IN THE ENVIRONMENT WE ARE IN ACROSS THIS NATION AND THE WORLD. IT IS FRUSTRATING WE ARE PITTED AGAINST EACH OTHER BY OUR LEGISLATORS. ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES FROM THE SCHOOL BUS TO THE LUNCHROOM TO THE CLASSROOM AFFECT LEARNING. WE SAY THAT EVERY SINGLE DAY. WHEN I SAY IT, I MEAN IT. SO THE CONVERSATION THAT WE HAVE ESPECIALLY ESSENTIAL VERSUS NONESSENTIAL IS A PHILOSOPHICAL ONE. THIS IS A LITTLE BIT -- I'M NOT GOING TO FILL THIS OUT. I THINK IT'S A NICE EXERCISE IF WE ARE HAVING A REAL CONVERSATION AROUND THIS, BUT I DON'T WANT TO CHECK OFF OR WRITE NUMBER ONE AS A PRIORITY TO CUT NEXT TO ANY ONE OF THESE AND LET IT GET OUT TO THE PUBLIC AND LET IT HAVE THE PUBLIC HEAR THAT I VALUE ANY OF THESE LESS THAN ANOTHER. SO THAT'S MY CONCERN IN FILLING THIS OUT. THAT IMMEDIATELY BECOMES A PUBLIC RECORD. WHAT WE SAY UP HERE MEANS SOMETHING TO ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES. SO I GET THIS AND I THINK THIS IS VALUABLE AND, BY THE WAY, I THINK I WAS THE ONE THAT SAID WE NEEDED TO HAVE A PHILOSOPHICAL CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT'S ESSENTIAL AND NONESSENTIAL. I APPRECIATE THIS. I WANT TO STATE, FOR THE RECORD, FILLING IT OUT AND JUST PUTTING NUMBERS NEXT TO SOMETHING WITH NO EXPLANATION COULD REALLY HURT SOME OF OUR EMPLOYEES AND THAT WOULD NOT EVER BE MY INTENTION. SO WHEN YOU DON'T GET MINE, THAT'S WHY. DURING THE DOWNTURN IN OUR ECONOMY, DURING THE LAST RECESSION/DEPRESSION, DEPENDING ON WHO YOU ARE TALKING TO, WE KEPT IN MIND THAT WE WERE THAT HUGE ECONOMIC ENGINE. I REMEMBER SITTING AT THE TABLE AND SAYING WE ARE THE LARGEST EMPLOYER IN THIS COMMUNITY AND IF WE START TO LAY EMPLOYEES OFF THE COMMUNITY WILL SUFFER BECAUSE PEOPLE WILL NOT BE PAYING THEIR MORTGAGES AND PROPERTY TAXES AN IT WILL FURTHER HURT OUR BUDGET AS A SCHOOL DISTRICT. IT WOULD HURT THIS COMMUNITY THAT WE LIVE IN BECAUSE PEOPLE WOULDN'T BE GOING TO RESTAURANTS AND SHOPPING AND PURCHASING THINGS AND THAT WOULD HURT THE ECONOMY EVEN MORE. WE KEPT IN MIND AND KEPT THAT LARGE EMPLOYEE BASE DURING SOME VERY DIFFICULT TIMES IN THIS COMMUNITY AND I THINK THAT WE ARE TO BE COMMENDED FOR THAT AS A DISTRICT, RECOGNIZING OUR ROLE IN KEEPING THIS COMMUNITY AFLOAT. I THINK NOW IT'S TIME FOR US TO TURN TO OUR COMMUNITY AND ASK FOR SUPPORT BACK. IN CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR LEGISLATORS, I DON'T KNOW ASIDE FROM OUR RELATIONSHIPS WITH -- WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET THROUGH THIS YEAR BUT WILL HAVE ANOTHER SESSION NEXT YEAR. SO MR. SUPERINTENDENT, YOU ARE VERY ENGAGED WITH THE CHAMBERS AND DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS OUT THERE, BOARD MEMBERS. WE ARE, AS WELL WE HAVE TO PUT TOGETHER SOME TALKING POINTS. WE HAVE TO MAKE IT AN ALL-OUT CAMPAIGN TO GET OUT THERE AND EDUCATE OUR COMMUNITY, OUR PARENTS, OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO ARE BUSINESS OWNERS. NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANT OF OUR EDUCATION SYSTEM IN THIS COMMUNITY. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT BY NEXT LEGISLATIVE CYCLE I WOULD HOPE WE HAVE IN PLACE WAY PRIOR TO. BECAUSE THOSE CONVERSATIONS HAVE TO TAKE PLACE. WE HAVE PUTTING THINGS -- WE ARE BEING SOCIAL MEDIA WARRIORS. WE ARE MAKING OUR PHONE CALLS, WRITING OUR LETTERS. I KNOW WE ARE MAKING LETTERS TO LEGISLATORS BUT WE HAVE TO DO MORE. IT'S NOT ENOUGH. WE HAVE TO BE PROACTIVE IN THE CAMPAIGN TO LET PEOPLE KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING TO US, WHERE OUR BUDGET IS CONCERNED. THE ESSENTIAL VERSUS NONESSENTIAL, WHAT'S THE ROI FOR OUR STUDENT GAINS? WHAT'S THAT RETURN ON INVESTMENT? WHAT ARE THE STUDENT GAINS? WHEN WE TALK AND THIS BOARD HAS HAD MANY DEEP CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE EDSBY AND ARE WE USING IT? IF WE ARE NOT USING IT WHY SPEND THE MONEY ON IT? SOME PEOPLE DO, SOME DON'T. WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THOSE CONTRACTS AND SEEING WHAT'S DONE THERE. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING THOSE CONTRACTS AND HOW YOU ARE LOOKING AT THAT. AS FAR AS MAINTENANCE AND FACILITIES AND WITH OUR AIR CONDITIONING, I HAVE HAD THIS CONVERSATION WITH CHRIS FARKAS AND OUR SUPERINTENDENT IN THE PAST. ARE WE TURNING -- AND THIS IS A QUESTION, ARE WE TURNING AIR CONDITIONING OFF WHEN WE ARE NOT IN THE BUILDINGS? ARE WE DOING THAT? [ INAUDIBLE ] I HAVE HAD SOME PEOPLE FROM HVAC COME AND TALK TO ME ABOUT THAT, AND THIS THE STATE OF FLORIDA HOW DEBT  DIETARIMENTAL IT CAN BE TO A UNIT. CUTTING THEM OFF FOR LONG PERIODS OF TIME CAN BE EXTREMELY DETRIMENTAL TO AN HVAC UNIT. MOLD CAN BUILD AND WHEN YOU COME BACK ON MONDAY AND TURN IT UP IT TAKES THAT MUCH LONGER TO GENERATE THE COOLING THAT THE BUILDING NEEDS. IT PUTS A LOT OF STRAIN ON THE UNIT. I THINK THAT WE NEED TO MAYBE RETHINK THAT PRACTICE. WITH ALL OF THE AIR CONDITIONING ISSUES WE ARE HAVING, TOO. WHERE OUR BUILDINGS ARE CONCERNED, WE NEED TO THINK OUTSIDE OF THE BOX. I KNOW ESRF IS SOMETHING THAT TIES OUR HANDS MORE THAN IT DOES CHARTER SCHOOLS, BUT HOW BIG OUR BUILDINGS ARE AND WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS MODEL THAT WE HAVE, BOARD MEMBERS, OF IF ONE SCHOOL GETS IT THAN ALL SCHOOLS GET IT. ATHLETICS BEING ONE OF THOSE THINGS. WE JUST THOUGHT OUTSIDE OF THE BOX WITH OUR LACROSSE. WE DID A PAY FOR PLAY MODEL. WE DIDN'T PUT IT AT EVERY SCHOOL. WE HAD IT STRATEGICALLY PUT THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY, BUT WE HAVE TO START TO THINK OF ATHLETICS IN A DIFFERENT WAY, TOO. IT'S COSTING US A LOT OF MONEY. MAYBE IT IS AN ATTRACTER TO A SCHOOL. MAYBE WE DON'T HAVE THE SAME THINGS AT EVERY SINGLE SCHOOL BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT IF SPORTS ARE AN ATTRACTER FOR SOME STUDENTS THAN A PARENT AND THAT CHILD WILL MAKE A CHOICE TO GO TO THAT SCHOOL BASED ON THE ATHLETICS. I KNOW IT'S HARD. I KNOW IT'S HARD BUT THIS IS A POSITION WE ARE PUT IN TO MAKE THESE DECISIONS. LEASING OUR BUILDINGS, AS WELL I KNOW WE ARE TALKING TO SOME VENDORS ABOUT THAT. I'D LIKE A BREAKDOWN IN THE ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS AND I'D LIKE TO SEE A SEPARATION IN SCHOOL SITE ADMINISTRATORS, VERSUS OFF-SITE ADMINISTRATORS. I'D LIKE TO SEE THOSE NUMBERS SIDE BY SIDE. THE CHARTER SCHOOL REDUCTION THAT WE HAVE IN PROJECTED EXPENSES BECAUSE IT IS MONEY NOT COMING IN TO THE DISTRICT. IT IS NOT MONEYS WE ARE SPENDING. IT'S MONEYS WE ARE NOT GETTING, CORRECT? IT IS A FLOW THROUGH. THERE'S A FLOW THROUGH. WHAT IS MISSING FROM THIS THAT I NEED TO SEE, TOO -- WHAT WOULD THE COST -- SO HOW MANY STUDENTS IS THAT? AND WHAT WOULD THE COST TO THE DISTRICT BE IF THOSE STUDENTS WERE IN A TRADITIONAL PUBLIC ENVIRONMENT? I THINK THAT'S A MORE REALISTIC NUMBER TO LOOK AT. I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT. AND IN REFERENCE TO MS. GRAY'S COMMENTS ABOUT THE FIRST YEAR TEACHERS, I AGREE THAT IT IS MORE COST EFFECTIVE BUT THAT BEING SAID, FIRST YEAR TEACHERS WITHOUT COACHES IS SOMETHING THAT I'VE SEEN THIS THE PAST AND 15 YEARS AGO WHEN I WAS HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS WITH TEACHERS PRIOR TO BRINGING --  THAT WAS SOMETHING TEACHERS WERE BEGGING FOR BECAUSE THE PRACTICE USED TO BE THEY WOULD GRADUATE FROM COLLEGE, COME TO THE DISTRICT AND BE THROWN IN TO A CLASSROOM AND TOLD, GOOD LUCK. THE COACHES DECREASED OUR TURNOVER QUITE A BIT. IT HELPED WITH THOSE STUDENT AS FAR AS COACHES ARE CONCERNED, THE NEW TEACHER COACHES ARE SOMETHING THAT I THINK ARE EXTREMELY VALUABLE AND WE FEED TO HAVE SOME CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THAT. I THINK BOARD MEMBERS, THIS CONVERSATION BEFORE OUR STAFF STARTS CUTTING POSITIONS, WE NEED TO HAVE A PHILOSOPHICAL CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT IS ESSENTIAL AND WHAT'S NONESSENTIAL. WE CAN BASE IT OFF OF THIS, BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE I THINK A DETAILED CONVERSATION AND I WILL YIELD THE FLOOR. THANK YOU.  

>> Cindy Stuart: THANK YOU, MS. GRIFFIN. MS. HARRIS?  

>> Sally Harris: THANK YOU, MEMBER STUART. THIS IS A REALLY TOUGH PLACE TO BE. I FEEL THAT ALTHOUGH EVERYONE SITTING UP HERE AS A STRONG SUPPORT IN THE FACT THAT WE DON'T WANT TO IMPACT OUR CHILDREN IN THE CLASSROOM, BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO BE REALISTIC AND REALIZE THAT ALL OF THIS WILL HAVE AN IMPACT. I MEAN WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IT IN THAT AVENUE. WHEN WE LOOK AT WHAT'S GOING ON IN OUR COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, INDUSTRY STARTED RECOGNIZING QUITE A LONG TIME AGO, I THINK, BACK IN 2008, THAT THEY HAD TO DO BUSINESS DIFFERENTLY. ALTHOUGH I WAS NOT SITTING ON THE BOARD DURING THAT TIME AND I APPLAUD THE BOARD AND THIS DISTRICT ON WHAT THEY DID TO SAVE ALL OF THOSE JOBS AND KEEP THE COMMUNITY ALIVE, I FEEL LIKE THAT WHAT HAPPENED AT THAT POINT THAT IT PUT OUR DISTRICT EMPLOYEES IN TO LIKE ALMOST LIKE A BUBBLE, LIKE YOU WERE NOT TOUCHED BY WHAT WAS GOING ON IN THE REAL WORLD, AND NOW WE ARE NOW BEING TOUCHED BY WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE REAL WORLD. OUR LEGISLATURES AND SENATORS HAVE MADE A STATEMENT THAT EDUCATION IS NOT THEIR PRIORITY. OUR COMMUNITY, I REALLY FEEL, NEEDS, LIKE YOU SAID, MS. GRIFFIN, NEEDS TO SUPPORT US. OUR LEGISLATORS, I STILL CAN'T BELIEVE OUR LEGISLATORS DID NOT MAKE EDUCATION A PRIORITY. WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT EVERYTHING FROM THE PIPELINE TO PRISON, WHEN YOU THINK OF THE COMMUNITY, THE IMPACT, AND AFTER SITTING THROUGH 43 PLUS GRADUATIONS AND SEEING THE FABULOUS THINGS, GP A's GOING UP AS HIGH AS A 9-POINT SOMETHING. WHEN YOU SEE THAT AND YOU THE SUCCESS OF OUR STUDENTS IN THIS DISTRICT AND WHERE THEY ARE GOING AN THE FUTURE LEADER AND THE POSITIONS THEY WILL BE PUT IN, I CAN'T SIT HERE AND BELIEVE THAT OUR LEGISLATORS PUT US AT A LOW PRIORITY. I JUST CAN'T. I CAN'T EVEN COMPREHEND WE ARE SITTING HERE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION BUT IN HAVING IT, I DO FEEL WE HAVE TO REALIZE WE HAVE LIVED IN A BUBBLE AND THAT EVERYONE WILL BE IMPACTED BY THE DECISIONS THAT WE END UP MAKING IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS. BY THE TIME WE GET TO THE 20th AND KNOW WHAT OUR NUMBERS ARE, IT'S STILL GOING TO BE A LOT OF CHANGES AND A LOT OF CUTS, WHICH WE DON'T WANT TO SEE BUT IT WILL BE THERE AND IT WILL IMPACT OUR STUDENTS. I THINK THAT WE REALLY DO NEED TO REACH OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND ASK FOR SUPPORT. AS I SAID LAST TIME AND EVERYBODY MADE FUN OF ME, THAT MAYBE THERE'S A DONATION SOMEWHERE COMING IN. MAYBE THERE ARE PARTNERSHIPS WE CAN DEVELOP THAT HAVE A BETTER IMPACT, YOU KNOW? THERE'S ALL KINDS OF THINGS THAT NEED TO BE PUT IN TO THE PICTURE. EVERY ONE OF THEM WILL HURT US AND OUR TEACHER AND OUR STUDENTS. IT'S A NEW WORLD. THERE'S NOT AN ABUNDANCE OF MONEY. OUR LEGISLATORS MADE SURE OF THAT. SO NOW WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO SQUEAK THE WHEEL. WE CAN ONLY SQUEAK OUR WHEEL SO MUCH. WE REALLY CAN ONLY DOWN SIZE SO MUCH. ALL YEAR WE HEARD THE BUS DRIVERS BEGGING FOR HELP ON THE BUSES. THAT'S MORE EMPLOYEES. THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. THERE MIGHT NEED TO BE MORE ACCOUNTABILITY TO OUR FAMILIES AND PARENTS ON DISCIPLINE ISSUES. THIS IS SO IMPACTFUL THAT IT'S GOING TO IMPACT A LOT OF AREA. I JUST WANT TO SAY I LOVE IT. AS YOU SEE I ADDED A BUNCH OF OTHER THINGS, MY IDEAS I HAVE BEEN PREACHING ABOUT FOR QUITE A WHILE. I ADDED THEM AND WILL TURN IT IN BUT I THINK I WILL TAKE MY NUMBERS OFF. BUT I LIKE THE IDEA OF THE FORM AND I THINK IT HELPS BECAUSE WHEN YOU PUT A LOT OF PEOPLE TOGETHER, REALLY CREATIVE IDEAS COME OUT. I DO LIKE THAT IDEA AND I WANT TO SAY TO THE COMMUNITY, I WANT TO SAY TO THE AUDIENCE, IF YOU HAVE IDEAS, PLEASE, BRING THEM FORWARD BECAUSE WE WANT TO TAKE EVERY IDEA AND CONSIDER IT. I THINK SOMETIMES YOU GET IN A NARROW VISION AND YOU CAN'T SEE PAST WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT AND SOMETIMES SOMEBODY WILL SAY SOMETHING AND IT WILL SPARK YOU AND BECOME A CREATIVE IDEA. DON'T LET THIS BE DOOM AND GLOOM. WE STILL HAVE A JOB TO DO. WE HAVE TONAL KATE OUR KIDS. GO TO ONE GRADUATION AND LISTEN TO ONE VALEDICTORIAN SPEECH AND YOU WILL COME BACK WITH A HIGHER ENERGY. TALKING ABOUT MONEY, EVEN IN YOUR MARRIAGES AND HOMES, IT'S DEPRESSING. MONEY IN THE SHORTAGE OF MONEY HURTS. BUT WE STILL WAKE UP TOMORROW MORNING AND HAVE TO GET THROUGH THE DAY. EVEN THOUGH IT IS DOOM AND GLOOM LET'S FIGURE OUT CREATIVE WAYS BUT WE HAVE TO BE REALISTIC AND KNOW IT IS IMPACTING EVERYONE AND WILL IMPACT OUR CHILDREN. SO THANK YOU.  

>> THANK YOU  

>> Tamara Shamburger: FOR ME THE QUESTION IS HOW DO WE TURN -- HOW DO WE MAKE LEMONADE OUT OF ROTTEN BUDGETARY LEMONS? HOW DO WE DO THAT? I DON'T KNOW. I THINK IT WILL TAKE A LOT OF WORK AND DEEP CONVERSATION, TIME FOR US TO GET DOWN AND DIRTY AND REALLY KIND OF FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO THIS. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS I'D LIKE TO FOCUS ON AS WE MOVE IN TO MORE DETAILED BUDGET WORKSHOPS. I AGREE WITH MEMBER HARRIS THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE AN ALL-IN BUY IN FROM THE COMMUNITY. THIS IS BIGGER THAN HILLSBOROUGH SCHOOL DISTRICT, THIS IS HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AND EVERYBODY IN IT AND I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE A BUY IN FROM EVERYBODY. TIT IS SAD OUR LEGISLATORS DO NOT PUT US AS A PRIORITY. HOW DO WE CREATE LEGISLATORS IF WE ARE NOT EDUCATING THESE KIDS. IT SHOULD BE A PRIORITY. I THINK NEXT GO AROUND WE WILL HAVE SOME GOOD CONVERSATIONS. IN ORDER TO REDUCE REVENUE WE DO THAT BY REDUCING EXPENSES. I'D LIKE MORE SPECIFICS THE NEXT BUDGET MEETING REGARDING THIS BUDGET. STILL ON THE SAME SLIDE. CERTAINLY MORE DETAILED HR REGARDING THE BENEFIT AN WHAT WE AND WHATWE CAN DO TO CHANGE BENEFITS THAT WILL NOT IMPACT THE EMPLOYEES QUALITY OF LIFE AND MORE TALKS AND DETAILS ON OUR CONTRACTS AND PROGRAMS. MAYBE EVEN IDEAS AND DISCUSSION IN TO SOME SUBSCRIPTION TYPES OF SERVICES LIKE THE PAY FOR PLAY AS MEMBER GRIFFIN MENTIONED. ALSO THE ESSENTIALS VERSUS NONESSENTIALS. THAT IS AN ESSENTIAL TOPIC. MORE T THAN PHILOSOPHICAL CONVERSATION WE NEED A PRACTICAL CONVERSATION OF WHAT IS ESSENTIAL AND NONESSENTIAL WHEN WE LOOK AT THE BUDGET. ALSO LASTLY -- I HAD ONE QUESTION REGARDING THE CHARTER SCHOOL PAYMENTS. NOW WE KNOW THAT -- I GUESS THE FINAL FTE COUNT IS OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, CORRECT? BUT WE KNOW WE ALWAYS HAVE AN INFLUX OF STUDENTS COMING BACK TO THE DISTRICT BUT WE DON'T GET THOSE DOLLARS BACK, IS THAT CORRECT? HOW IS THAT CALCULATED IN TO OUR BUDGET, THE IMPACT OF STUDENTS COMING BACK IN THE DISTRICT AND WHAT IT WILL COST TO EDUCATE THE STUDENTS BUT WE DON'T GET THE FTE BECAUSE OUR CHART AREAER AND PRIVATE SCHOOLS KEEP THE MONEY.  

>> THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION. I WILL START, WE TURN IN OUR PROJECTION IN DECEMBER. THE GOVERNOR DOES HIS THING. THE LEGISLATURE DOES THEIRS. WE START OUR BUDGET. JUST FOR EVERYBODY'S KNOWLEDGE, WE DON'T GET OUR $1.6 BILLION ON JULY 1. IT IS SPLIT BETWEEN TWO. WE GET TWO PAYCHECKS A MONTH AFTER THE 10th AND AFTER THE 26th. THEY TAKE THE NUMBER AND DIVIDE IT BY 24 AND WE RECEIVE THEY. SO WITH OUR NUMBER COMING IN, WE TURNED IN NUMBERS FOR McKAY, FOR OUR TRADITIONAL SCHOOLS, FUR OUR CHARTER SCHOOLS, EVERYTHING WE CAN THINK OF, THE NUMBERS ARE IN THERE. WHEN THE DOLLARS START TO FLOW WE START TO PAY THE MONEY OUT TO CHARTER SCHOOLS AS THEIR PROJECTIONS HAD COME IN. THAT'S HOW WE PAY IT OUT. WHEN THE STUDENTS COME IN, WE ARE STARTING SCHOOL. EVERYBODY IS THERE. SOME OF THE SCHOOLS, SOME OF THE KIDS ARE AT McKAY PROGRAM, SOME OF THEM -- WE HAVE A SNAPSHOT OF THE STUDENT ENWHEN IT IS SURVEY TWO. ONCE WE DO THE SURVEY AT THAT POINT IN TIME, THERE'S A LOT OF MOVEMENT STILL GOING ON BUT IF WE HAVE THE STUDENTS IN THE SEATS AT ONE POINT IN TIME WE CAN COUNT THEM. APARTMENTS DECIDE THEY WANT TO MOVE TH. WHATEVER THE SNAPSHOT WAS TAKEN AND THE CHARTER SCHOOLS ARE ADJUSTED LIKE THE SUPERINTENDENT SAID. WE WORK WITH JENNA'S OFFICE TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE BEST NUMBERS AND THE FTE REPORTS FROM I. THE SPRING COMES ALONG AND ANOTHER SNAPSHOT WHICH IS SURVEY THREE. THE NUMBERS ARE ADJUSTED AGAIN. THEY GO TO TALLAHASSEE AND WE GET INFORMATION FOR THE FOURTH CALCULATION BASED ON THOSE NUMBERS. AT ANY POINT IN TIME WE COULD SEE A REDUCTION OF FUNDS FROM TALLAHASSEE IF THERE IS ANOTHER INCREASE OF STUDENTS IN THE STATE. AFTER THE FOURTH CALCULATION WE GET ONE FROM TALLAHASSEE AND DON'T RECEIVE ANOTHER TRUE UP UNTIL OCTOBER OF NEXT YEAR WITH WHAT IS CALLED THE FIFTH AND FINAL CALCULATION. ON THE VIRTUAL SIDE WE HAVE UNTIL JUNE 30th FOR STUDENTS IN VIRTUAL PROGRAMS TO BE FINISHING UP THEIR PROGRAMS. SO THEY HAVE UNTIL JUNE 30th, I THINK JUNE 30th TO FINISH THOSE UP TO SEE IF WE CAN GET CREDIT. HOWEVER, A FEW YEARS AGO, REMEMBER, BOARD, WE WERE ABLE TO TURN IN FTE FOR OUR STUDENTS AND GET THE FTE. A FEW YEARS AGO THE LEGISLATURE CAME BACK AND TERMED THIS RECALIBRATION. NOW THERE IS A RECALIBRATION. I DON'T WANT TO SAY IT IS A PROGRAM BUT THEY TAKE EACH STUDENT. SO SUSIE G. IS A STUDENT. SHE WILL NOT RECEIVE MORE THAN ONE. WE WILL NOT RECEIVE MORE THAN ONE FTE FOR HER. WHETHER SHE TABLES VIRTUAL CLASSES SHE WILL TAKE THEM WITH HILLSBOROUGH VIRTUAL, OR SOMEWHERE ELSE WE WON'T BE FUNDED FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN THAT. IF SHE TAKES EXTRA CLASSES THE DOLLARS WILL BE SPLIT. WHATEVER THE PRORATION IS. THERE WON'T BE DOUBLE DIPPING. THAT'S WHEN THE NUMBERS ARE TRUED UP ALSO. IT IS CALLED CAPPED AND UNCAPPED. SO AGAIN, IT'S -- I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE LIKE THIS IS EASY. IT SHOULD BE EASY, MONEY IN AND OUT BUT THERE ARE SO MANY VARIABLES THAT GO BACK TO OUR STUDENTS, WHETHER IT IS RECALIBRATION. ONE OF THE THINGS THE I.T. FOLKS HAD TO GO BACK IS WE HAD A LOT OF STUDENTS THAT MIGHT HAVE MULTIPLE STUDENT ID NUMBERS. WHETHER THEY LEFT POLK AND CAME TO HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY WE HAVE TO TRUE THAT UP AND THEY HAD TO JUMP ON AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE ONE STUDENT NUMBER PER STUDENT TO MAKE SURE WE RECEIVED OUR FTE EARNINGS. TALLAHASSEE IS FOREVER LOOKING AT THE NUMBER AN RECALIBRATING. ALL OF THAT TO SAY IT IS A CONTINUOUS LOOK THROUGH TO SEE WHAT THE REVENUE PICTURE IS, WHETHER IT IS GOING TO HERE, CHARTER SCHOOLS OR McKAY. THEY DON'T TOUCH THE McKAY MONEY. THE SCHOOLS, FOR THE McKAY, THEY GET THEIR MONEY EVERY MONTH. I KNOW THAT'S A LONG ANSWER AND IT IS CONFUSING.  

>> Jeffrey Eakins: WANT ME TO BOTTOM LINE THAT FOR YOU?  

>> Tamara Shamburger: YES.  

>> Jeffrey Eakins: IF I CAN BOTTOM LINE AND PUT ATE PERIOD ON IT. WE GOT OUR FUNDING BASED OFF ARE PROJECTIONS BUT IF WE GROW MORE AND HAVE MORE KIDS TO SERVE WE DON'T AUTOMATICALLY GET MORE MONEY BECAUSE IT HAPPENS. WE HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THE CALCULATIONS OCCUR AND IF THE WHOLE STATE OF FLORIDA GETS MORE STUDENTS THAN THEY PREDICTED IN THE FIRST PLACE WE WON'T GET FUNDED AT THE FULL LEVEL FOR THE EXTRA STUDENTS THAT WE SERVED. THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE BETTER GET OUR PROJECTIONS RIGHT. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR WE ARE CALCULATING THOSE GROWTH AREAS IN OUR TRICK AND SO FORTH. IF WE GET OUR PROJECTIONS UNDER WHAT THEY END UP BEING WE COULD SERVE THOUSANDS MORE TUNES BUT NEVER RECEIVE THE FUNDING FOR THEM.  

>> Tamara Shamburger: THANK YOU FOR THAT RESPONSE TO BOTH OF YOU. FOR THE WORKSHOP I'D LIKE TO HAVE MORE SPECIFICS REGARDING THE PROPOSED REDUCTIONS SO WE CAN HAVE AN EDUCATED, I GUESS, CONVERSATION OR THE ABILITY TO OVERLAY THE ESSENTIAL VERSUS NONESSENTIALS OUR OUR CREATIVE OUT OF THE BOX THINKING. IT IS DIFFICULT WITHOUT KNOWING SPECIFICALLY WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. I REQUEST MORE DETAILS FOR THE FULL WORKSHOP. THANK YOU.  

>> THANK YOU.  

>> BOARD MEMBERS -- MAKE NOTES ON WHAT YOU WANT TO BE PART OF THE 20th. THAT'S A FULL DAY. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT GRETCHEN AN HER TEAM GET WHAT IT IS I'M -- I'M SURE THAT GRETCHEN CAN READ THE MINUTES AND WATCH THIS BROADCAST BUT IF YOU CAN BE SPECIFIC ON THIS PAGE, AS WELL AS IF YOU ARE WILLING TO FILL OUT THE FLU BLUE PAGE FOR WHEN WE COME TOGETHER FOR THE NEXT MEETING. A LOT OF WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY HAS BEEN COVERED BUT I'M GOING TO MAKE SOME STATEMENT AND I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS GRETCHEN, I HAVE WRITTEN THESE SO YOU CAN BRING BACK THE ANSWERS WHEN WE HAVE A CONVERSATION ON THE 20th. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE UNDERSTAND BOTH UP HERE THAT CUTTING VACANT UNITS DOES NOT SAVE US MONEY. THAT IS -- JUST BECAUSE YOU BUDGET FOR SOMEONE TO BE IN A POSITION, BUDGETED VERSUS ACTUAL DOLLARS SPENT ARE TWO VERY DIFFERENT THINGS. I DON'T WANT TO HEAR ABOUT WE'RE CUTTING UNITS, CUTTING UNITS. IF NO ONE WAS IN THE POSITION YOU DIDN'T SAVE A PENNY. I THINK WE NEED TO STOP THAT PRACTICE OF SAYING THAT. IT PUTS THE APPEARANCE WE ARE SAVING SOMETHING BUT WE HAVE REALLY SAVED NOTHING. I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT -- THERE SEEMS TO BE A LOT OF REVIEWING GOING ON AND DR. VAZQUEZ, THIS IS NO ILL INTENT HEADED YOUR WAY, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF DISCUSSION BUT NOT A LOT OF DECISIONS BEING MADE YET WE ARE IN MID JUNE. WE DON'T HAVE A BUDGET BUT ASIDE FROM WHAT THE LEGISLATURE HAS DONE TO US WE HAVE OUR OWN FISCAL ISSUES WE NEED TO ADDRESS. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE SEPARATE THE CONVERSATION. WE HAVE OUR OWN ISSUES THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT THE LEGISLATURE SENDS DOWN TO US. WE HAVE GOT A SALARY ISSUE THAT IS MOUNTING, THAT IS COMING AT US. COMING THIS AUGUST IN NEGOTIATIONS THAT WE HAVE TO HANDLE. WE HAVE REDUCTIONS THIS HAVE TO HAPPEN REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE LEGISLATURE DOES. WE STILL HAVE A FISCAL ISSUE WITH OUR REVENUE AND EXPENSES NOT MATCHING AND OVER SPENDING AND OUR CURRENT RESERVE FUND. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE SEPARATING THOSE ISSUES. WE STILL HAVE CUTS THAT HAVE TO HAPPEN REGARDLESS. I WANT TO KNOW WHEN WE CAN START TO SEE AND EXPECT CHANGES. I KNOW DR. V. AND I HAD A HEALTHY CONVERSATION YESTERDAY, I THINK, THAT THE FINANCIAL TEAM HAS BROUGHT FORWARD A LOT OF IDEAS. SOME OF THOSE ARE NEGOTIATED THINGS AN SOME ARE NOT. THE THINGS WE NEED TO SEPARATE THOSE, AS WELL THE THINGS NEGOTIATED WE NEED TO LEAVE TO NEGOTIATIONS AN THE THINGS NOT NEGOTIATED ITEMS WITH NEED TO HAVE HARD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THOSE ON THE 20th. WHO AND WHAT REVIEWS CONTRACTS AND WHAT'S THE PROCESS? IS THERE A PROCESS THAT EVERY CONTRACT GOES THROUGH? EITHER WHETHER IT IS A NEW CONTRACT COMING FORWARD OR WHETHER IT IS A CONTRACT THAT'S BEEN RENEWING FOR 15 YEARS IN THIS DISTRICT? WHO'S THE RESPONSIBILITIABLE PARTY OR TEAM THAT GOES THROUGH THAT AND REVIEWS EVERY ONE OF THOSE AS THEY COME COME FORWARD? WHO'S MONITORING THAT? DO WE HAVE A SYSTEM IN PLACE FOR WHO MONITORS WHAT WE OWE IN CONTRACTS? AND WHAT IS OUTSTANDING? I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE A DOLLAR FIGURE FOR WHAT IS OUTSTANDING CONTRACTS IN THIS DISTRICT. DO WE EVEN KNOW WHAT THOSE DOLLARS ARE? SO THAT CONCERNS ME THAT WE ARE NOT EVEN CLEAR ON WHAT WE ARE -- OUR ACTUAL OWED LIABILITY IS ON CONTRACTS. WE HAVE, SUPERINTENDENT, FIDUCIARY DUTY. I SEE THIS NUMBER HERE AND TO ME THAT NUMBER IS NOT JUST DOLLARS OUT. THAT IS STUDENTS OUT. THOSE ARE STUDENTS THAT WE ARE LOSING TO THIS DISTRICT FOR WHATEVER REASON. WE NEED TO FIND A WAY TO KEEP THOSE STUDENTS IN THIS DISTRICT. WE HAVE TO STOP HAVING THIS DOUBLE-SIDED CONVERSATION. WE CANNOT STAND ON THE FENCE ANY LONGER. WITH HAVE TO DECIDE WE WILL PARTNER WITH CHARTERS AND THEY WILL HELP US GET THROUGH THIS FINANCIAL SITUATION THAT WE ARE COMING UP ON WITH GROWTH, OR WE WILL FIND AND CREATE A PLAN, A STRATEGIC PLAN OF HOW WE KEEP STUDENTSES IN THIS DISTRICT AND CAN WE MANAGE THAT? BECAUSE WE SAY WE ARE LOSING $146 MILLION, AND WE SAY THAT THAT'S A PROBLEM FOR US, BUT COULD WE REALLY HANDLE THEM IF THEY ALL CAME BACK TOMORROW? DO WE HAVE SPACE? DO WE HAVE TEACHERS? CAN WE AFFORD IT? THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM, WHERE ARE WE GOING WITH THIS. THIS WILL CONTINUE TO GROW. 11 NEW SCHOOLS ARE OPENING THIS YEAR AND IT'S NOT GOING TO STOP. WE SAID IN THE LAST MEETING WE HAD A GROWTH CONVERSATION THAT WE NEED TO PARTNER WITH THEM. WE NEED TO GET OUT OF THE PLACE WHERE WE TALK ABOUT THE DAMAGE THEY ARE DOING TO US AND HOW THEY ARE GOING TO HELP US MOVE THROUGH GROWTH. WHICH WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THAT IN A ONE CONVERSATION. I'M DISAPPOINTED THAT MS. HUDGENS ISN'T HERE. THE CHART KERR DIVISION ISN'T HERE. WE TALK ABOUT VIRTUAL SCHOOL AND THE ISSUES BUT WHAT HAVE WE DONE TO GROW OUR OWN? I WILL TELL YOU MY CHILD IS IN VIRTUAL SCHOOL FOR THE SUMMER TAKING THE COURSE BECAUSE HILLSBOROUGH DOESN'T OFFER THE SAME CLASSES. THOSE FTE DOLLARS COULD BE STAYING HERE IN THIS DISTRICT BUT WE ARE NOT COMPETITIVE WITH FLORIDA VIRTUAL. HOW DO WE TALK ABOUT EXPANDING THE PROGRAM SO WE ARE COMPETITIVE? INTERNAL SERVICE AGREEMENTS. I DIDN'T HEAR ANYONE TALK ABOUT THE INTERNAL SERVICE AGREEMENTS THAT HAPPENED WITH OUR EMPLOYEES THAT NEED TO BE ALSO REVIEWED. IF WE ARE REDUCING SUPPLEMENTALS AND BONUSES THAT'S ANOTHER AREA TO LOOK AT. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING, HONESTLY, BUSINESS TEAM, THAT GOES UNTOUCHED. EVERYTHING HAS TO BE REVIEWED UNDER A MICROSCOPE. THERE ARE NO SAFE DIVISIONS. IT WAS FUNNY, GRETCHEN, YOU MENTIONED CHRIS FARKAS AND HIS DIVISION AT LEAST TEN TIMES BUT NOT OTHER DIVISIONS TALKED ABOUT. TRANSPORTATION CANNOT BE THE ONLY DIVISION COMING UP WITH IDEAS HOW TO MAKE THE BUDGET WE NEED TO HEAR FROM ALL DIVISIONS, FROM AREA SUPERINTENDENTS AND FROM OTHER DIVISIONS THAT CAN AND SHOULD BE MAKING CUTS AND COMING UP WITH CREATIVE IDEAS, AS WELL SO I HAVE MADE A LOT OF NOTES FOR NEXT MEETING. WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT TPAYROLL MUCH BUT COULD SIX VOLUNTEER TEACHER THES COVER AN ENTIRE CLASS LOAD WITHOUT HIRING A FULL-TIME TEACHER? THOSE ARE CREATIVE IDEAS THAT WE COULD TALK ABOUT THAT WE HAVEN'T GONE THERE. THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS I'M EXPECTING YOUR CABINET MEMBERS TO COME UP WITH AS IDEAS AS WE MOVE FORWARD. I THINK ON THE 20th AND DR. V., I KNOW YOU HAVE A LOT OF DATA THAT YOU HAVE BEEN MINING AND THAT THE BUSINESS TEAM HAS BEEN BRINGING TO YOU. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU SEPARATE WHAT'S NEGOTIATED AND GOING IN TO NEGOTIATIONS AND WHAT'S NOT AND HOW WE SEPARATE OUT WITHOUT CALLING OUT INDIVIDUAL TEACHERS OR INDIVIDUAL SCHOOLS. BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT DATA IN FRONT OF US. AND WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THE ESSENTIAL AND NONESSENTIAL PHILOSOPHICAL QUESTION OF WHERE WE WILL TRULY MAKE CUTS. WE ALSO -- WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION YESTERDAY IN OUR COMMUNICATIONS MEETING. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO PUT THE RIGHT COMMUNICATION OUT THERE TO OUR EMPLOYEES AND TO THE PUBLIC. WHEN I THINK THAT IS PART OF WHERE MS. HARRIS WAS GOING TALKING ABOUT THE COMMUNITY HAS TO GET IN ON THIS CONVERSATION WITH US. THE RIGHT COMMUNICATION, I GUARANTEE YOU MY OTHER PHONE IS PROBABLY BLOWING UP SOMEWHERE THAT I HAVE TEACHERS WHO ARE WATCHING THIS ON THEIR BREAKS OR PEOPLE WATCHING FROM HOME WHO ARE TERRIFIED ABOUT THE SITUATION THAT WE ARE IN. AM I GOING TO HAVE A JOB? ARE YOU GOING TO CUT MY SALARY? ARE YOU GOING TO TAKE MY BONUSES? LET'S FACE IT WE ALL BALANCE OUR HOME BUDGETS BASED ON YOUR INCOME. I'M SURE THIS IS NOT A PRETTY PLACE FOR US TO BE IN BUT A LOT OF WHAT WE ARE DOING OTHER GOVERNMENT AT AGENCIES DID YEARS AGO WHEN WE HIT THE RECESSION THEY MADE THE SAME CHANGES. WE PRIDE OURSELVES ON NOT HAVING DONE FURLOUGHS AND LAYOFFS BACK WHEN THE RECESSION HIT, AND WE ARE MAKING ADJUSTMENTS NOW THAT OTHER GOVERNMENTAL AGENCIES MADE YEARS AGO BECAUSE NOW NOT ONLY IS THE LEGISLATURE DOING IT TO US BUT WE HAVE OUR OWN FISCAL ISSUES. WE HAVE MORE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO SPEAK. BOARD MEMBERS, WITH HAVE 15 MINUTES LEFT. SO MS. GRAY.  

>> Lynn Gray: THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR AND NICELY SAID. I REMEMBER THE T PAYROLL. WE HAD HARD TIMES IN THE '80s AND '90s. '80s HIT US HARD PANEL FINANCIALLY AND WE HAD TO DO DOUBLE SESSIONS, T PAYROLL, A LOT OF METHODS, BUT I WANT TO MENTION THAT I'M REMINDED OF WHAT WE ARE DOING. WITH ARE BUILDING RELATIONSHIPS. IN FACT, OUR LAWYER, MR. PORTER, MYSELF, WE ARE MEETING WITH THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. WE WILL BE ASKING THEM -- WE HAVE BEEN IN VARIOUS LAW FIRMS, CHAMBERS OF COMMERCES. I BELIEVE WE HAVE TREMENDOUS RESPONSIBILITY TO COMMUNICATE OUR NEEDS. IF THEY HAVEN'T HEARD IT YET, THEY WILL HEAR IT. I KNOW MAUER  NOMAR LEAN IS HERE AND SHE WILL PUT IT SUCCINCTLY. THEY KNOW THAT THE BALL IS IN THEIR COURT OR THEIR PART OF THE COURT THAT WE ARE IN AN EMERGENCY SITUATION. MY QUESTION IS, WHAT KIND OF RELATIONSHIPS DO WE HAVE? OR DO WE HAVE VERY SIGNIFICANT POSITIVE RELATIONSHIPS WITH OUR COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND OUR CITY COUNCIL? IF WE DON'T, WE BETTER GET ON THE BALL AND MAKE POSITIVE COMMCOMMUNICATIONS. WE NEED TO ASK. SOME OF US WHO RAN A CAMPAIGN HAD TO DO IT AND YOU EITHER GET IT OR DON'T GET IT SO IT IS TIME FOR THE ASK AND EVERYONE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT. REMEMBER, WE HAVE TO IMPROVE ON INVESTING IN THE HUMAN CAPITAL THAT WE HAVE IN OUR COMMUNITY. LET'S GET THE BUSINESS LEADERS, PARTNERS INSIDE OF OUR SCHOOL. THAT HAS VALUE. THAT HAS MONETARY VALUE. THEIR EXPERTISE, MANY THINGS, PRICES CAN'T BE PUT ON THEM. WE ARE DOING THAT AN I KNOW THAT SUPERINTENDENT EAKINS IS WORKING ON THAT EXTREMELY HARD. BE REMINDED WE ARE INVOLVED WITH BRINGING THE BUSINESS IN TO OUR SCHOOLS. LATHSLY, GRANT AND GIFTS. WE HAVE ONE OF THE BEST GRANT DIVISIONS THIS THE STATE OF FLORIDA. MAYBE EVEN LARGER THAN THAT. THERE HAS NOT BEEN ANYTIME THAT OUR GRANT SUPERVISOR HASN'T ASKED WHAT PROJECT ARE YOU WORKING ON? LET ME HELP YOU WITH A GRANT. I WANT THAT TO BE VOCALIZED. IN A NUTSHELL, WE DO KNOW SALLY HARRIS, MEMBER HARRIS, THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE TREMENDOUS COLLECTIVE ENERGY IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND THIS IS TELEVISED AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THEY KNOW OUR NEED. ONE OTHER SIDE BAR RIGHT NOW, REGARDING WHETHER WE NEED SUPPLEMENTAL RESOURCE COACHES AND ALL OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT CAME WITH THE GATES GRANT, I STILL STAY ON THE WORD THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THEM. I WAS A TEAM LEADER IN ELEMENTARY. I WAS A DEPARTMENT HEAD IN PUBLIC AND PRIVATE SCHOOL. I WAS THE MENTOR. THAT WAS IT. I HELPED. I. IT WAS SATISFYING TO ME AND THE TEACHERS. IT CAN BE DONE BUT WE CAN'T BE GOING AROUND WITH WHO, WHAT AND WHEN. WE HAVE TO MAKE CUTS SOMEWHERE. THAT IS A VERY REALITY TYPE OF CUT TO MAKE. THANK YOU.  

>> Cindy Stuart: MS. GRIFFIN  

>> April Griffin: WE WILL AGREE TO DISAGREE ON THAT TOPIC, MS. GRAY. I'D LIKE TO SET MY EXPECTATION ON THE 20th. I'M HOPING NO GREAT CUTS ARE MADE BEFORE THE BOARD HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO THINK ABOUT WHAT WE HAVE ALL DISCUSSED TODAY, AND THEN WE HAVE THAT VERY DEEP BETWEEN STAFF AN THE BOARD. I THINK IT IS A TEAM EFFORT THAT WE HAVE THAT VERY DEEP PHILOSOPHICAL DISCUSSION ABOUT ESSENTIAL VERSUS NONESSENTIAL. I KNOW YOU HAVE GOT PLANS, BUT I'M HOPING WE CAN DELAY IF THERE IS ANYTHING IN THE HOPPER BETWEEN NOW AND THE 20th THAT WE CAN LEAST DELAY IT FOR THAT LONG SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THAT DISCUSSION. AND I KNOW EACH DAY THAT MEANS MONEY. BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT LIVES ARE ATTACHED TO EACH ONE OF THESE POSITIONS. AND STUDENT LEARNING AND GAINS ARE ATTACHED TO EACH POSITION. I WOULD HOPE THERE IS NO MAJOR DECISION MADE BY THE 20th UNTIL WE CAN HAVE THAT DISCUSSION. THEN I WILL LEAVE MY COMMENTS AT THAT. THANK YOU.  

>> Cindy Stuart: THANK YOU, MS. GRIFFIN. MR. EAKINS.  

>> I WANT TO ASK A QUESTION OF PAYROLL AND HR. WE HAVE A LOT OF EMPLOYEES THAT ARE PAID AND NOT ALL OF THEIR PAY COMES OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND. I'M WONDERING IF THERE IS A WAY, GRETCHEN, YOUR TEAM AND HR TO WORK -- WE TALK ABOUT THROUGH ATTRITION WE HAVE X NUMBER OF PEOPLE LEAVING THE DISTRICT. BUT THAT NUMBER DOES NOT ALWAYS AFFECT ONLY -- I'D LIKE TO SEE A BREAKDOWN OF WHERE WE SIT. HOW MANY FROM THE GENERAL FUND, HOW MANY PARTIAL. WE TALK ABOUT WHEN GRANTS GO AWAY THE POSITION GOES AWAY. BUT I KNOW THERE IS A LONG HISTORY IN THE DISTRICT OF THAT NOT HAPPENING. WE KEEP THE EMPLOYEE AND MOVE THEIR PAY TO A GENERAL FUND TYPE SITUATION. CAN YOU GET A BREAKDOWN OF BETWEEN YOU AND MS. WAILEN OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE SO WE HAVE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT BUCKET OF MONEY YOU ARE PAID OUT OF OR NOT PAID OUT OF? I THINK THAT WOULD HELP US WHEN WE TALK ABOUT EMPLOYEES WHO ARE LEAVING. I KNOW, TOO, THERE WAS INFORMATION YOU MENTIONED GIVEN TO THE AREA SUPERINTENDENTS. I'M HOPING THAT IS SOMETHING YOU WILL SHARE WITH US ON THE 20th FOR RESOURCES THAT ARE IN THEIR AREAS AND HOW THEY CAN MAKE ESSENTIAL CUTS. WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT IT A LOT BUT ONE OF THE THINGS ON YOUR LITTLE BLUE SHEET I WAS SURPRISED TO SEE IS ADMINISTRATIVE CUTS. THIS BUILDING AN THE OTHER BUILDINGS THAT WE OWN. WE NEVER TALK ABOUT HOW WE CAN UTILIZE PEOPLE IN THE BUILDING TO DO BETTER WORK OR MORE WORK OR -- I MEAN AT THIS POINT IN OUR BUDGET, AND IN THIS YEAR, EVERYONE IS GOING TO HAVE TO PICK UP SOME SLACK. GOD KNOWS WE DO. I DO ANY WAY. THE SUPERINTENDENT HASN'T TAKEN A RAISE NOW FOR THREE YEARS, AND I THINK EVERY OTHER PERSON NEEDS TO FOLLOW THAT EXAMPLE IN THAT WE ARE IN A SITUATION IN WHICH THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ROOM FOR US TO MAKE THOSE KIND OF PROMOTIONS AND RAISES AND MOVING PEOPLE UP AND FORWARD ANYMORE. NOT FOR A WHILE ANY WAY. AND IT DOESN'T LOOK PROMISING COMING OUT OF TALLAHASSEE. THAT'S THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM THAT I THINK EVERYONE NEEDS TO GET BEHIND THAT EXAMPLE AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S THE MINDSET. SO MR. SUPERINTENDENT? ACTUALLY MS. SNIVELY.  

>> Melissa Snively: THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. ONE THING I HEAR EVEN THOUGH SOME OF US HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS ON DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE BUCKET BUT THERE SEEMS TO BE A CONSENSUS WE WANT TO UNDERSTAND THINK PROCESS OF CONTRACT REVIEW. THAT IS AN EXPECTATION THAT MOST OF US WILL HAVE FOR THE 20th IS HOWEVER YOU WANT TO PRESENT THAT INFORMATION, BE IT A SPREAD SHEET OR SOMETHING WE CAN TAKE AWAY AND HAVE A GOOD LOOK AT AND TRY TO UNDERSTAND, WRAP OUR HEADS AROUND HOW THAT IS PROCESSED. ONE THING WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT IN THIS FORUM IS THE GIBSON CONSULT ATLANTIC REPORT AND SOME OF THE EFFECT THAT WILL HAVE ON FUTURE DECISIONS. I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU MY PERSONAL, PROFESSIONAL OPINION ON WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE. I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE ANY CONSENSUS OR AGREEMENT WITH THE REST OF THE BOARD ON THIS. HOWEVER, WHAT I'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE WHEN WE START TO LOOK AT AREAS THAT WE MAKE DECISIONS AND MAKE REDUCTIONS IS, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES FOR EXAMPLE THE GIBSON CONSULTING REPORT, SOMETIMES THE ITEMS THEY ARE RECOMMENDING ARE WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER THE LOWEST HANGING FRUIT. HOWEVER, THE LOWEST HANGING FRUIT IS NOT ALWAYS THE BEST FRUIT TO PICK FROM THE TREE. SOMETIMES IT IS THE ROTTEN FRUIT THAT HANGS THE LOWEST. WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS I'D LIKE TO SEE AN EFFICIENT REDUCTION, WHERE YOU ARE -- WHERE WE ARE REDUCING EXPENDITURES AND IMPACTING THE LEAST AM OF PEOPLE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE WHEN WE DO THAT SOME OF THE DECISIONS AFFECT A LOT OF PEOPLE, WHETHER IT IS THE BELL TIMES, THE COURTESY BUSING, WHATEVER. THOSE ARE AFFECTING THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WHEREAS SOME OF THESE CONTRACTS, SOME OF THE DECISIONS THAT WE MAKE MAY ONLY AFFECT A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF THE POPULATION, WHETHER IT IS STUDENTS OR TEACHERS, FACULTY, THE COMMUNITY, STAKEHOLDERS, TAXPAYERS, ALL OF THE ABOVE. THAT'S WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE MORE OF IN THE FUTURE DECISION-MAKING PROCESS. YES, WE COULD GET A FAST 2.5 MILLION FROM THIS BUT HOW MANY IS GOING TO AFFECT? DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO DO IT THAT WAY OR IS THERE A MORE METHODICAL WAY OR A HARDER LOOK AND WE HAVE TO TAKE A LITTLE LONGER AND METHODICAL LOOK AT THINGS THAT GIVE US MORE BANG FOR OUR BUCK THAT DON'T AFFECT AS MANY PEOPLE IN THE PROCESS. SO I WANT TO SHARE THAT BECAUSE THAT IS TO ME A MORE EFFICIENT WAY. IT'S NOT THE FASTEST WAY. SOMETIMES THE HIGHER FRUIT IS HARDER TO REACH, BUT IT'S BETTER FRUIT TO PICK FROM THE TREE.  

>> WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT WHERE WE ARE WITH THE GIBSON REPORT. I THINK IT MAY NOT BE APPROPRIATE FOR THE 20th BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE, BASED ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WERE MADE BECAUSE WE DID HIRE THE GIBSON FOLKS TO HELP US REDUCE OUR FINANCIAL SITUATION AND GET US MORE ON THE STRAIGHT AND NARROW. CAN WE GET A TRACKING OF WHERE WE ARE ON EACH DIVISION FROM THE GIBSON REPORT. THERE WERE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE FIRST AND SECOND YEAR AND I'D LIKE TO SEE FROM EACH DIVISION WHERE THEY ARE WITH IMPLEMENTATION AND THEN MAYBE NEXT TO THAT THE SAVINGS OR EXPENSE THAT WENT WE HAVE HAD SOME DIVISIONS WHO HAVE DONE THINGS OUTSIDE OF THE GIBSON REPORT THAT WE THOUGHT WOULD SAVE MONEY BUT REALLY DIDN'T. I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT ON THE 20th. IF EACH DIVISION IS TRACKING THAT INDIVIDUALLY IN THEIR DIVISION THAT SHOULDN'T BE TOO DIFFICULT TO GATHER WHERE THEY ARE ON THAT. THANK YOU, MR. SUPERINTENDENT.  

>> Jeffrey Eakins: THANK YOU. I WANT TO WIND UP A COUPLE OF THINGS TO REINFORCE YOUR CONCERNS OR SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP. FIRST AND FOREMOST, A LOT OF YOU HAVE SPOKEN TO OBVIOUSLY TIMING. IT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. THAT'S WHY THE FREEZE WAS PUT IN PLACE TO FREEZE EVERYTHING SO WE CAN GET A GOOD SNAPSHOT ON WHERE WE ARE AT AND WHAT WE MIGHT HAVE TO DO STRATEGY WISE. WHEN I HAD SPOKEN ABOUT EMPLOYEES EARLIER, AND THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES, WE WANT TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE COMPARISON DATA SO YOU KNOW WHERE OUR STARTING POINT IS AS WE TALK ABOUT ESSENTIAL, NONESSENTIAL OR WHATEVER THE CRITERIA IS AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH REGARDS TO OVERALL NUMBERS OF EMPLOYEES. SO IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, WE HAVE 26,000 EMPLOYEES. IN A DISTRICT THAT IS LARGER THAN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, BROWARD COUNTY, THIS HAS 70,000 MORE CHILDREN IN IT THAN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, THERE ARE 24,460 EMPLOYEES, WHICH IS 1500 LESS THAN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY. ORANGE COUNTY, WHICH IS ABOUT THE SAME SIZE AS HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, A LITTLE SMALL HER, IT HAS ABOUT 22,700 EMPLOYEES. THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS WE NEED TO KNOW AS WE ARE BENCHMARKING. ONCE AGAIN, NOT TO GO LASER SURGICAL BUT HOW TO GET WHERE WE NEED TO BE SO WE ARE HONORING THE REASON WE EXIST AND PROVIDING GREAT INSTRUCTION FOR STUDENTS, THAT WE HAVE THE RIGHT TYPE OF INFRASTRUCTURE TO MEET THE NEEDS OF OUR SCHOOLS AN AND OUR COMMUNITY. AND WE NEED TO KNOW WHERE WE ARE STARTING AND WHERE WE NEED TO GET TO AS WE HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS. THAT'S WHY IT WILL BE PROBABLY WHAT WE HAVE TO DO BETWEEN NOW AND THE 20th AND MAKING TOUGH DECISIONS NOW AND WHAT WE HAVE TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS MORE IN THE LONG TERM AS DIVISIONS LIKE TEACHING AND LEARNING ARE WORKING ON PLANNING INSTRUCTIONAL DELIVERY, LEARNING ENVIRONMENT BASED OFF OF THE LEARNER. HOW WE MARRY THAT WITH WHAT CURRENTLY NOW OUR SUPERINTENDENTS ARE CARRYING THE HEAVY LIFT RIGHT NOW. THEY ARE GOING OUT AND IDENTIFYING ALL OF THE UNITS THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE COLLAPSED BASED OFF OF SUBSCRIBED ENROLLMENT. THOSE TYPES OF THINGS WE NEED TO IDENTIFY NOW. GET THE UNITS THAT WOULD BE FILLED WITH SALARY IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS IF WE DIDN'T LOOK AT IT AND TAKE THE SALARY, WHICH IS, BY THE WAY, IN THIS NUMBER, IT'S ON THIS CHART. WE CAN ALREADY START TO TAKE WE CAN ALREADY START TO TAKE  

>> THAT'S THE BEST WAY TO DO IT INITIALLY. THEN START TO TALK ABOUT OKAY, SO, NOW WHERE ARE WE? WEST THE NUMBER WE HAVE TO GET TO TO MAKE SURE WE BALANCE THE BUDGET RIGHT WAY, LOOKING AT THE CONTRACT, ET CETERA. BUT NOW KNOWING IF WE CAN'T AFFORD TO BRING IN MANY NEW EMPLOYEES INTO THE DISTRICT, WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO WITH OUR CURRENT EMPLOYEE STRUCTURE TO BE ABLE TO DELIVER THE VERY BEST? THOSE ARE DIFFICULT DECISIONS, THOSE OBVIOUSLY INVOLVE OUR UNIONS AND HOW WE GO ABOUT MAKING FINAL DECISIONS AND HOW WE COMMUNICATE THAT ACROSS OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT. I DO WANT EMPLOYEES THAT ARE LISTENING OUT THERE TO KNOW THIS IS SOMETHING WE DO HAVE TO GRAPPLE WITH. THIS IS REALITY THAT WE'RE GRAPPLING WITH. WE ARE THINKING OF THEM, TRUST ME. THE SUPERINTENDENT THINKS OF THEM EVERY SINGLE MORNING AND EVERY SINGLE NIGHT AND EVERY SINGLE DAY. I KNOW THIS BOARD DOES TOO. WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE GET TO THE PLACE WE NEED TO GET TO, KNOWING THERE ARE SOME THINGS WE CAN'T CONTROL RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE TO GET IN BETTER POSITION. OBVIOUSLY NEXT YEAR AS WE GET IN FRONT OF OUR NEXT LEGISLATIVE SESSION, BECAUSE THIS LEGISLATIVE SESSION CREATED A NEW TEMPLATE ON HOW THEY DO BUSINESS. WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT NEW TEMPLATE IS LIKE AND WE HAVE TO KNOW HOW TO ENGAGE THE RIGHT WAY, I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT. WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT OUR CHAMBERS AND SOME OTHER FOLKS THAT ARE OUT THERE. THEY ARE SOMETIMES THE PEOPLE WHO ARE, WHO HAVE THE EAR OF PEOPLE TO REALLY HELP. SO THEY HAVE TO REALLY HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING. THAT'S ARE WHY WHEN WE ARE GOING OUT, WE NEED TO BE FLOODING OUR CHAMBERS. I WAS AT THE KIWANIS THIS MORNING. ALL THE PEOPLE THAT KNOW OTHER PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, THEY NEED TO HEAR OUR STORY. AND REALLY KIND OF COME ALONGSIDE US. YOU WILL TIMELY WE OWN ALL THESE SOLUTIONS TOGETHER LOCALLY. BUT TO BE ABLE TO GET INTO THE EAR OF OUR LEGISLATORS. I KNOW OUR LOCAL DELEGATION, WHICH I HAVE SPOKEN TO SOME OF THEM, HAVE BEEN VERY FRUSTRATED ABOUT THIS SESSION. I GET CONCERNED FOR THEM BECAUSE THEY GOT INTO THIS POSITION TO BE ABLE TO GO UP AND MAKE A DIFFERENCE. THEY REALLY FELT CUT OUT DURING THIS SESSION. SO WE HAVE TO REALLY WORK WITH THEM AS WE MOVE FORWARD TO GET THEIR VOICE, WHICH I KNOW THEY WANT TO HAVE A VOICE UP THERE. GET THEIR VOICE HEARD ON BEHALF OF US. SO, WE'RE GOING TO DEFINITELY TACKLE SOME TOUGH THINGS MOVING FORWARD. IT'S NOT FOR THE FAINT OF HEART UNFORTUNATELY. THOSE DECISIONS COME AT THE OWNS SATISFY MAKING SOME VERY TOUGH DECISIONS. YOU KNOW AND I KNOW THAT THIS BOARD, MY STAFF ARE GOING TO DO SO THINKING OF KIDS FIRST. MAKING SURE EMPLOYEES ARE POSITIONED THE RIGHT WAY TO SERVE OUR STUDENTS THE VERY BEST WAY. AND KNOWING THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY WE WANT TO TAKE CARE OF OUR CURRENT EMPLOYEES AND DO THE VERY BEST BY THEM. THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS, MS. STUART.  

>>Cindy Stuart: THANK YOU. WE HAVE A 1:00. MR. SUPERINTENDENT, I JUST NOTICED THERE IS NO ONE HERE FROM ADMINISTRATION. WE'RE TALKING A LOT ABOUT CUTS TO SCHOOLS, UNITS AND THERE'S NOT A SINGLE PERSON FROM THE ADMINISTRATION DIVISION HERE. I WOULD HOPE ON THE 20th 20th THEY'RE GOING TO BE PRESENT SO THEY CAN HEAR THIS CONVERSATION, UNLESS THEY'RE GOING TO WATCH THE PLAYBACK. THAT'S VERY NOTICEABLE THEY ARE NOT IN THE ROOM.  

>>Jeffrey Eakins: THEY'LL BE HERE THIS AFTERNOON. I BELIEVE THEY HAD THEIR RETREAT SESSION THIS MORNING AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE HERE THIS AFTERNOON. AND THEY'LL BE HERE ON THE 20th.  

>>Cindy Stuart: BOARD MEMBERS WE RETURN AT 1:00 SHARP FOR A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE WORKBOOK -- THE STUDENT HANDBOOK AND THE CODE OF CONDUCT. WE ARE ADJOURNED.